I'll say it til my dying day ...

If Kyle Orton starts the Super Bowl....Bears win.

Grossman was a mistake....a collosal one.

Bears should've went to and won the prior Super Bowl as well. For a two year period...that team was red hot with nothing to show for it.

Greatest defense to never win a Super Bowl.

Flutie....yeah his career started off on the wrong track and could never fully recover.

Reminds me ....on NFL2k5 (or 4) you could have Flutie start for the Patriots and go undefeated. Amazing game.... shameful how they allowed Madden to have the exclusive rights.

Yeah the passage of time is frightening....

20 years since ROV was launched...March 2006.

I miss everyone...even the trolls.

That game last night was UGLY. Holy shit. Both teams were exposed.

You're right....Nix is a fraud. One year wonder. He is literally incapable of throwing down field.. or Payton doesn't believe in his ability to do so. A pattern has been established of Nix not throwing to open receivers.

He's the QB people need to be giving shit to...not Maye.

Broncos have a good defense but they're fucked. Their backup QB sucks as well. I wouldn't be surprised if this is his final year as a starter.

Darnold is not the answer either. He's the Brad Johnson of the 2020s....he got lucky going to the right team at the right time and was good enough to get a ring.

They should've kept Locke as the starter....things started falling apart once Darnold came back.

I understand bringing your starter back when he's healthy but damn...he's not Joe Montana. They could've kept Locke in the driver's seat until things started going south.

If it ain't broke...

Yeah... unless something catastrophic occurs, Giants taking the division whether it's Winston or McCarthy.

Titans really do need to move on from Cam. If he is actually good, he's one of those guys who had the bad luck of getting drafted by a dog shit team and he's unlikely to recover from it.

I've always wondered how good Testeverde could've been had Tampa traded that pick to someone else.

NFL Power Rankings

Vikings finally getting some respect. I'll credit Brady for always having them on his list. Like he said...if you're undefeated, you make the list. Period.

Thats a wacky top 10...

Detroit?
Cincinnati?

I don't think Seattle or Denver belong in the top 10. One more loss will probably knock them out.

I also don't like how everyone and their grandma has their own power rankings now. No consistency.

Yeah I agree...but the Falcons do have a small chance at the crown. If it goes to the wire...Falcons last 3 games are against their division.

Panthers last 3 games...

Steelers
Seahawks
Falcons

Saints and Bucs fighting in the cellar.

Yeah it's bad.

As trash as that Lions defense is....they lead the league in sacks.  Interesting anomaly.

Dallas is just lost. They really need a proper coaching staff. I think the team is toast as long as Jerry Jones is alive...he's just not willing to give up any control.

Yeah this is definitely one of those seasons where a couple teams everyone expects to get in are going to be sitting at home watching the playoffs.

The NFC East is weak this year. One team will go to the playoffs.

NFC South is a battle between Carolina and Atlanta....with Atlanta having a small chance at a wild card.

That leaves 4 or 5 spots available for the West and North.

Chicago
Minnesota
Green Bay
Detroit

San Francisco
Seattle
Los Angeles

All these teams better pray for the Vikings to start sliding...and the Rams need to get their shit together.

Imagine that Vikings team with an elite QB.

I watched the highlights of the Houston game. I had to watch the condensed game (condensed down to 45 minutes) because a normal highlight video shows almost nothing of the Titans offense. Crazy.

Yeah....it's bad. It might be the worst O line in the league. There was a play where a safety is blitzing Cam and his line doesn't even acknowledge it even though he's literally running straight at him.

Cam clearly has difficulty reading defenses...or his coach/coordinator does. There was a play where there's a hole so big, Helen Keller could fly a B-52 through it...but he doesn't take off. Lamar or Patrick probably get 30 yards out of that play....Titans get an incompletion.

They really do have a shot at 0-17.

This team is so bad....IF they do get the #1 pick, I think they should trade it for a bunch of picks spread out over 2 years and work on a complete rebuild.

Don't draft Arch or whoever the fuck with the pick...it won't make a bit of difference.

This is one of the main things I miss about football...when so many teams/players/coaches hated each other. The game lost something when this changed.

Yeah I saw that. Fucked up...my favorite coach.

The news headline I read about Ditka was either AI or written by a moron...it listed him as Saints head coach. Obviously the majority of his accomplishments were in Chicago.

It would be like listing Brady as QB of the Buccaneers...yeah he was...but is that really the highlight?

I wish Ditka (among others) could've coached in today's NFL. I'd love to see what type of dynasty he could've cooked up. Same with Bill Walsh.

There's an alternate timeline where Ditka/Bears have multiple Super Bowls in the 80s...maybe even into the 90s.

It all started falling apart piece by piece after the 85 season.

Obviously Buddy Ryan leaving was the first domino to fall.

A big one...never talked about...was tossing Flutie away like he was garbage. He was tossed in as the starter in the playoff game against the Redskins, they lost, and he takes the blame.

He just needed some time...and with Mcmahon entering the constantly injured phase of his career....they needed him really bad in the late 80s. Instead they got Tomzsack and Harbaugh. Ugh.

Lamar Jackson out in the game against the Falcons. Tyler Huntley is pretty damn good....surprised no team wanted him as a starter....but that Falcons team is red hot after Penix came back. They destroyed the Saints.

Cowboys are in trouble. 50 yards rushing against the Bucs?

Prescott's negative reaction to a stadium employee telling him how the loss was embarrassing just shows how him or the Cowboys don't have what it takes to ever win a Super Bowl.

The NFC East is turning into a complete mess.... reminiscent of the NFC South last year. There's simply no dominating team

Cowboys
Giants
Redskins
Eagles

All teams on a downward trajectory at the moment. I predicted the Giants would win the division...before Darts injury....they still might...but the road to the division crown will be ugly.

There's panic in Denver and Houston...

Demeco Ryans and Sean Payton are taking back play calling duties from their coordinators.

Not a bad decision. If your ship is about to sink, might as well be holding the steering wheel while it hits the iceberg.

Supposedly Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to be traded within a few days. Rumor is that Houston is the team going after him.

Maybe so...but I think the Chiefs will get him. They need another receiver now. If they don't acquire him, they're probably going to sign Tyreek.

Oh yeah that was massive.

I was actually referring to when they had the #1 seed and the Redskins walked in there and kicked their asses.

If they had beat the Redskins....Eagles have to go to Detroit instead of the cakewalk in Philly they wound up getting.

That was the Lions last legit shot at a SB.

The Bears are on the verge of owning the division and Minnesota is an offense away from doing the same thing.

I think the Lions are headed back to the cellar of the division...and so are the Packers.

Both coaches should probably be fired and try a reset.

I agree.

Shannon Sharpe talked about this a few years ago....how even iconic defenses of the past...Ravens, Bears, Steelers...would have some difficulty doing what they could do back in the day.

If you have an inept offense doing constant 3 and outs and turnovers, the defense will keep you in the game for 2 or 3 quarters and then their opponents offense takes over the game.

Field goals won't do it in this era either except in unique situations. It blows me away when watching a game and the team is down 14-17 points with 6-7 minutes left and they bring the kicker out.

It just tells me they don't want to win the game...or the coach is incompetent.