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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 3 days ago

Bill Brasky wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

In November of 1999 Rolling stone were played several songs from the Chinese democracy session's, they were also played an instrumental of Oklahoma.

Them being played just an instrumental, when they were played other songs that did have vocals suggests to me that none were recorded in 99 at all. The version that is out there is from March 2000 and obviously doesn't have any either.

But if you consider it was inspired by the bombing, (same week Izzy ect were writing Ocean ect) then that suggests the spark of the song came from Axl and not other members. That to me means it's likely he had a few lyrics for it but probably not all lyrics for it and just had not recorded them yet.

That he played it for magazines suggests he might have had more confidence in it than other songs they had at the time though, as I think aside from Atlas Shrugged all the other songs wound up on CD.

A few things to consider
1. We know by Dave Dominguez that Oklahoma was done lyrical very early in 1995-1996, So in my opinion it's a lot like This I Love a song with lyrics and vocals ready just needing the instrumental. Rembrandt This I love also didn't appear on the 19 village disc that we got. It's most likely on the others since it was intended to be used on the 1998 In What Dreams May Come.

2. Oklahoma is on rough mixes disc 3 but it's  take 10. So we don't know if the other9 by that date date had vocals.

3. When Rolling Stone was played the instrumental in 1999 it's possible that Axl wanted to tinker with it more to capture more of the sound of 1996 demo, So the version with vocals was not shared due to him wanting to redo vocals.

Just throwing out some of my thoughts.

Considering Oklahoma was a alt song at the 2001 hob show i think it was one of the first songs done.

I don't interpret Dave's comment about Oklahoma being done by the time they hit the studio to be mean the lyrics were done, I personally took that as referring to the instrumental. In another interview in 2018 he described it (and IRS) as a loop during that time period.

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 4 weeks ago

1.It is not just the fact that the word monster appears in both songs. In addition to the word monster, Monsters contains the line "you stole my soul". If it isn't Soul Monster, that's a far bigger coincidence than two songs with Elvis in the title.

2.The bridge in Monsters matches Axl's description of the bridge in Soul Monster perfectly. Again, very implausible that this is a coincidence, outside of wishcasting.

3.Monsters has the "Sabbath" vibe Axl alluded to. One of the first thing many listeners pointed out was the similar delivery to Ozzy, and the music, while not guitar driven, also fits the general mood of Sabbath. On the other hand, Me And My Elvis is vintage late 90s/early 2000s industrial rock. Besides the spooky keyboards, nothing in the track lines up with the Sabbath sound.

4.Monsters was almost certainly meant to be a hidden track at the end of the Perhaps vinyl, not a part of The General. "The General And Monsters" filing was probably TB or some other minion being told to register both songs and mistaking it for one long title.

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 4 weeks ago

There is piles of evidence that Soul Monster is Monsters and almost none that it is connected to Me And My Elvis. Pure wishcasting.

#4 Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 6 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce
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Bill Brasky, who occasionally posts here, posted on Bad Apples that MSL has said Quick Song is Cuban Skies. I thought I'd post this here because MSL also occasionally posts here. I have a few questions:

1.How does MSL know this? He was definitely in possession of song titles in 2011, breaking the news on Tonto & Going Down first, among other tracks. But he said he never listened to the songs, and so he couldn't describe them, leading many to believe he simply had the list of CD 2 songs from Axl's laptop but not the actual tracks.

2.If MSL has listened to the songs on the list, has he commented on whether or not Soul Monster is Monsters? 99% of fans (including myself) are sure it is, but some, such as Brasky, are still insisting Me And My Elvis is Soul Monster.

3.Does MSL have any opinion on whether the Tonto=Tooth Puller theory has any legitimacy?

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 21 weeks ago

Still hoping for Breakdown at some point. Though Axl would undoubtedly sound abominable on it.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 21 weeks ago

Have we gotten a glimpse of the alt list yet?

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas & Nothing the last of reworked songs - CD era comes to a close » 29 weeks ago

I wouldn't put the blame on all of them. Whatever you think of SMKC, Slash is still a very prolific songwriter, and Duff already wrote a new song for GNR a few years back. It's one guy that's incapable of doing anything, for whatever reason.

#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas & Nothing the last of reworked songs - CD era comes to a close » 29 weeks ago

jimmythegent wrote:

If they do release the 6 songs as a 'package', surely Monsters gets an official release and hopefully studio versions of the Seeker and Wichita. How difficult would it be for them to record those 2 covers? A weekends work tops. Would be nice to have studio versions of those 2. That could almost pass as an album. Call it "Not in this lifetime" have it mastered evenly (some songs remixed hopefully) and there's the GN'R reunion album. Children of the Revolution makes it 10 songs.

While it would technically be a weekends work, we saw how sensitive Axl is about releasing recorded stuff these days with the Schenker  album. He did multiple takes and still would only allow 1 out of 3 songs he featured on to be released, and to be frank I understand. There were so many layers placed over his voice, and you can still hear how weak it was underneath.

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 29 weeks ago

If Axl is going to write new lyrics, it's going to be on top of new Slash instrumentals, not unused stuff from Bucket & Finck. Even he isn't enough of an egotistical dickwad to suggest such a thing.

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