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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 13 hours ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Blackstar wrote:There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
Pitman seems to be referring to the 1998-2001 period (when the bulk of the material was written).
The only possibility that comes to mind (aside from Desmond Child type songwriters) is that maybe he was referring to Izzy's songs (the ones from the 90s that Axl asked and got back around 2000). But then why would Pitman avoid mentioning Izzy and be so secretive about it?
My money would be on Marti Frederiksen, Glen Ballard and Diane Warren. They wrote for Aerosmith on Nine Lives and Just Push Play which line up time wise with work on CD. Warren wrote that awful I Don't Want to Miss a Thing in 1998. If the Label or somebody was giving them lists of writers names then those would have been on it I think as they had pretty big success writing for 'classic rock' acts in an era that was mostly filled with Nu Metal/ New Punk stuff. In that sense from a labels perspective they would be the logical choice/suggestion. & if it was the song writers reaching out and not the label then GN'R seems the logical choice after working with Aerosmith.
If it was Izzy I think Pitman would say so.
A long shot guess would be Butch Walker who wrote for Rivers Cuomo and Weezer in that era, I only mention it as around 2003 there were rumours Axl was meant to guest on a Weezer song, which people put down to a silly rumour and is largely forgotten now.
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 26 hours ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Blackstar wrote:There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
I will get around to reading this in March, can I ask are the leaks mentioned at all?
They are, but not really any new information about any of them
Thanks.
#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 37 hours ago
polluxlm wrote:Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
Not that DJ is a 'big name' but before he was in GN'R he had done writing for Motley, wouldn't surprise me if he was shopping around songs to them before he joined. I did hear a rumour years ago that Joe leste from Bang Tango and Beautiful Creatures (Ashbas old band) may have sent songs to them but never heard anymore about it. 'Big names' however makes me think maybe Desmond Child
I will get around to reading this in March, can I ask are the leaks mentioned at all?
#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 2 days ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:Blackstar wrote:Yes, from first look it seems like a very well written and well researched book. Author has really done his homework combining information already out there and original interviews. Worth ordering, in my opinion.
I'm going to wait until the physical version is released, but is there any chance Tobias has been interviewed for this? I assume off the record if so.
Pitman is interviewed and 2-3 other NuGnR members are talking anonymously (I don't think Paul Tobias is one of them).
I would assume Stinson and Fink, Brain probably still had one foot in the camp when this book was being written, he might not anymore because of Isaac but you would probably know better than I. Besides he may think speaking either on the record or off could put Mellissa in an difficult position. Any song names mentioned?
#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 2 days ago
Yes, from first look it seems like a very well written and well researched book. Author has really done his homework combining information already out there and original interviews. Worth ordering, in my opinion.
I'm going to wait until the physical version is released, but is there any chance Tobias has been interviewed for this? I assume off the record if so.
#6 Re: GN'R Downloads » 1997 Slash, Sebastian Bach, Studio - Communication Breakdown » 10 days ago
Oh and Happy New Year
#7 GN'R Downloads » 1997 Slash, Sebastian Bach, Studio - Communication Breakdown » 10 days ago
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Slash Bach and Jeff Pilson from Dokken on bass, not sure on the drummer. Recorded at Goodnight L.A. studios in Los Angeles that's Keith Olsen's old studio (opposite Sound City Studios). I believe May 1997 or first week of June at the latest. Engineer Peter Love.
#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 11 days ago
It's a shame studio logs are not publicly available. Depending on an artists contract they are either property of the studio or artist and I'd imagine for GN'R that means Axl. The only way to probably get info on studio sessions would be through speaking to retired engineers who had no intention of working again.
When based in New York he tends to use Electric Lady Studios which was built by Hendrix, pretty sure that's where Brian May recorded his parts. A village style leak of stuff from there would be interesting, i'd love to hear what May did before his takes were edited together by Axl and Caram.
#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 13 days ago
'Combining outrageous facts and never-before-told stories from as many direct sources as possible'
That part sounds promising. Not sure what the near death experiences bit is about, wasn't BBF car crash years after album release?
#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 13 days ago
Interesting I'll have to pick this up. Good job I don't judge a book by its cover, as that cover looks tacky as fuck.
