Bill Brasky wrote:

Ides of March is Circus Maximus

'Ides of March' was a working title of one of the songs that came from a loop name that Dizzy came up with: I think they kept the name, but it's been years so I'm sure everything has changed by now." (Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05)

To quote Wasted regarding circus maximus"Would you say this has a Dizzy Loop on it?"

Yeah .. I doubt Ides of March is Nothing. Seems like a huge stretch.

On the other hand, they seemed to have a fetish for constantly changing working titles...and if there was a brief attempt at sticking to a particular theme, it's possible Ides and Circus were two different songs.

How the hell does Oklahoma morph into Berlin? What's the connection?

Look at Seven.... God only knows what that really is. Devious Bastards has a clip of the Mercury 7 astronauts.

Coincidence?  Did they scrap this song.... obviously a Bucket song ...but reuse that clip for Seven?

There's very little rhyme or reason to any of it unfortunately.

I know one thing.....the CD leftovers and the Village leaks show us that just because a song title appears to be epic doesn't make it so...even if described as such eons ago. A song that might have been epic couldn't be because it was simply abandoned/relegated to the "B list".

Bill Brasky wrote:

AtariLegend wrote:

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@billbrasky

Did you ever see this image yourself personally before 2019?

I answered your question already which was no i hadn't seen it before.

So for the last few days I've looked for it posted prior to the village sessions leaks and i came up with nothing.

So let me ask you this why did you ask me the question ?

@blackstar where you able to locate it prior to 2019.

@mistersaintlaurent comment ?

I asked, because its came up before and would be extremely easy to fake. 4 Heavens ect was not included in msl's original 2nd cd track list years ago (the one that included Tonto)

Maybe he can answer whether this 4heavens thing is supposed to be real, because that retrospective image is proof of nothing.

Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.

Shacklermyrye wrote:

@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.

That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song

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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).

Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.

Oh well, that would make sense. I noticed Brain said to me that Seven has Ben Hur in it, so it would fit in. We'll maybe never know

UYI4 wrote:

Was sniffing through the YouTube’s and this dudes channel that has locker stuff up has mustache.  I noticed in comments some guy saying vocals recorded for this song in the “first remake sessions” in 2002/2003.  Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul?

Seems to claim it’s about some French drummer that died in 1987.

Anyone know if this is true and or how tf would someone know this
Much?  Also I’m sure there were plenty of remake sessions but a discarded overhaul of 2004 that’s news to me.

The was a French drummer called Moustache who died in 1987.

He starred in the 1970s version of Zorro, and the 70s movie is seen by some as the definitive version of Zorro

And, Zorro was regarded as bringing the bandana look into fashion for people that wore them

Whether any of it is true I don't know and the chance of Axl knowing about a French jazz drummer and occasional actor is potentially quite slim, but who knows