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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2024 “Taking Off” » 37 weeks ago

Blackstar wrote:

We don't even know IF GN'R owes any albums to the label, because we don't know what exactly their current deal with UMG is. In the credits of the recent releases it looks like Geffen/UMG acts only as distributor for GN'R and not as a record label.

As for Axl's publishing deal with Sanctuary, here is the document:

https://www.a-4-d.com/t8176-2004-09-20- … -sanctuary

But it's completely irrelevant to now, because: 1) Sanctuary was no more in 2007 (was bought out); 2) The agreement would have expired by now anyway, as it was for 12-15 years (not for 20 years like we thought) starting from March 2004 (although the deal became public in early 2005, it had been signed in 2004); 3) It didn't cover songs that would be written after the release of Chinese Democracy, and it also doesn't seem that it covered songs that were written during the Chinese Democracy sessions but would not be on CD (it says it would be in Axl's discretion to include such songs in the agreement). The Sanctuary agreement covered Axl's share in a) all released GN'R songs from the "historic catalogue", b) other old songs Axl has a writing credit for, like Crash Diet and the Hollywood Rose songs, c) Oh My God, Madagascar and The Blues and d) whatever other original songs would eventually be on Chinese Democracy.

All we know for the current state re: publishing is that UMG Publishing has Axl's publishing. We don't know what the UMG publishing deal covers and when it expires.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_Records
In April 2007, Billboard reported that Sanctuary Records would cease to exist as a new release label in the US that summer, though catalogue, licensing, and new media operations would continue. On 15 June 2007 Universal Music Group announced it had reached an agreement to buy Sanctuary Records for £44.5 million.[11] The agreement was completed in October 2007. By December 2007, it appeared that the Sanctuary name had begun to be phased out, with both Morrissey and Robert Plant being transferred to the Universal-owned Decca Music Group and Iron Maiden to Universal Music Enterprises (with distribution by Sony Music Entertainment, a successor to Sanctuary and Columbia's distribution partnership for the band's releases) for future releases.

On 21 September 2012, regulators approved Universal Music Group's planned acquisition of EMI from Citibank for £1.2 billion.[12] However, due to conditions imposed by the European Commission, UMG was required to sell Sanctuary.[13] It was one of the three units of Universal Music, never fully owned by EMI, that were forced to be sold; other such units were Vivendi Entertainment and V2 Records. BMG Rights Management acquired Sanctuary for over €46 million.[14] In June 2013, BMG agreed to have INgrooves distribute the label's catalogue in North America, while the PIAS Group would handle international rights; however, Black Sabbath's catalogue remained at Universal until March 2014, when BMG took over the band's distribution.[15] In March 2017, BMG transferred the distribution rights of select Sanctuary artists to Warner Music Group's ADA division.[16]

In 2023, BMG signed a new distribution deal with Universal Music Group, Sanctuary's previous owner.[17]

#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2024 “Taking Off” » 38 weeks ago

Atlas/Monsters vinyl
Spot shows.

Just remember when you think you know what Axl rose is doing you're usually wrong.

For this to get very interesting would only require Axl doing vocals for few days.

Remember the rumor of a ep called Night train ?
You got potentially
1.absurd
2.hardschool
3.perhaps
4.the general
5.atlas
6.monsters.
Hypothetically
7.omg
8.seven/berlin/4 heavens

Remember Axl gets his publishing rights back from Sanctuary in 2025.

Guns N's Roses owes umg 1 more record. So wouldn't them doing a release in the fall and Axl gets all his publishing rights back in 2025 make sense.

#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2024 “Taking Off” » 39 weeks ago

Atlas/Monsters vinyl and few spot shows. That's my speculation for 2024.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 45 weeks ago

I hope people realize how the remaining hoarded tracks are most likely shit.

Do not be fooled by the hoarders claiming how great they are. They propped up the general as a big gun.

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 51 weeks ago

James wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

I don’t know why people would be expecting changes to the version we’ve already heard. They played it live twice. Cats out of the bag we know what it sounds like.

People were expecting a HQ version of the song...like all other bands release.

We passed off the shit quality due to the leaker fucking with it. Now we know that's not the case.


They must have, what else would they be playing when it's not been released anywhere yet?

It was getting a CD exclusive release in Japan. Not surprising radio stations got an early copy.

Caram is utter shit.
Very lazy realease that just shows Axl's hypocrisy.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » Unmastered Sound City Sessions » 53 weeks ago

dave-gnfnr wrote:
Bill Brasky wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:

this is when the floodgates need to open for leaks

If they wanted too they could.
Atlas with slash and duff is already being circle jerked in the group and they have the rest of the village discs.

Oh im sure they do

Is Walker and MSL apart of that group?

Also did the person who leaked The General mess with it?

Dave you know the answers to your questions.

Also I've been deep in the past lately and read Msl's ( promo ) "story " he posted on htgth in full carney mode.
In it he mentions that one person he messaged with frequently was Dave 2k Was that not you ?

#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Unmastered Sound City Sessions » 53 weeks ago

imsorry wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:
imsorry wrote:

Share is care!
Really!!! anything from cd era im all in.
Thank u for those files.

You should work your  magic on these lol

Haha im retired .
Did my quote for the community.
Cheers.

That's a huge loss for the community your work was excellent my friend.

#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » Unmastered Sound City Sessions » 53 weeks ago

dave-gnfnr wrote:
Bluefish18 wrote:

Funny how the band is in the middle of one of its biggest PR crises since the reunion, and....here come more leaks.......

this is when the floodgates need to open for leaks

If they wanted too they could.
Atlas with slash and duff is already being circle jerked in the group and they have the rest of the village discs.

#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » KATARINA BENZOVA vs. GUNS N ROSES; GUNDAM TOURING SERVICES U.S. LLC,;G » 53 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

its hit rolling stone https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi … 234877430/
'Benzova also accused Lebeis of once trying to force his way into her hotel room after she rejected his requests to drink wine with him at 6 a.m. In another alleged incident from May 2018, Benzova claimed Lebeis tried to force himself on her and “continued to pressure Benzova to succumb to his sexual demands for 10 minutes — physically touching her, coercing her, continually trying to force himself onto Benzova in a dark alley outside of her house.”


Jesus christ... this is bad

Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahahah

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