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#91 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy official reviews thread » 866 weeks ago
One thing I will say that disappoints me about the reviews is that it seems that no one has caught on to how overtly fragile Axl is and how overtly open his lyrics are about his broken relationships.
Aye.
That's probably one reason (among many) as to why it has taken so long. Ax just has a huge emotional investment towards the lyrics (and also, the music), and if I were him, I'd definitely like my say to come out as loud and clear as possible.
Lyrically, the album's essentially a story of a man in anguish, and I sure can appreciate the fact that it hasn't been too easy for him to go in there and find means to express such powerful emotions.
#92 Re: Guns N' Roses » Just How Long has Paul Huge been around GnR? » 866 weeks ago
Paul played lead in the Lafayette band AXL in '76-79. Izzy was the drummer. In the early 80's, Ax and Izzy went to LA, which resulted with Hollywood Rose et al. That's when he hooked up with Chris Weber, who sort of took Paul's place as Ax's co-writer. I believe Back Off Bitch goes back to Ax's Indiana days.
Paul remained in Indiana, I reckon, but he kept in touch with them. Wasn't actively around that much in between '79-94.
#93 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored Unreleased CD Era Songs » 866 weeks ago
i coulda swore.. and sic,correct me if i'm wrong.. but that hit parader interview.. the one where axl mentioned this i love... didn't he mention twat too?
What, this interview?
Nah.
we were lying...lies they tell...scraped?
Aye.
#94 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver dropped by label » 866 weeks ago
Libertad tanked and VR was going to get a new vocalist anyway. Just too risky for RCA's tastes, I reckon. Had Scott remained, they might've gotten a second chance to rebound with a new album.
Now, Slash's going to do his solo album, Duff's in Loaded and the digital music industry. Matt and Dave will be looking for work.
VR is toast and this is the excuse necessary to bury the band. Maybe they'll come back one day, but I kinda doubt it.
#95 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Sun reviews Chinese Democracy » 867 weeks ago
i am just here to gloat, high bono, hi buzzsaw, hi sic, hi anyone else who said the album was rubbish and that no one will like it, 4 stars from rollingstone and now this, comparing it with the beatles? oh my ya'll must be seething.
Yes, this is terrible.
The Gay Mafia must've bought in all the major news outlets to convince people this album is anything but rubbish.
#96 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
Well Cap,
That's something we can at least agree on. I also undersign brother madagas' claim on Axl's penchant for controversy, which goes straight back to the UYI days.
#97 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
Is it not ok to just be happy about some things that ARE happening in the GNR world without being accused of "being Jarmo" so to speak?
To each his own.
I have no problem with the fact that there are a great many people on this board, who are able to see the silver lining in the cloud hurling above us. It's all about how you look at it.
Yes, there are positives in the current situation, no doubt about it. We are finally getting the bloody album, which is of extreme significance. But there are still too many things reminding me of the same old shenaningas associated to this band - both avoidable and unnecessary - which I'd already hoped would've passed with the induction of the new management.
I'm not too worried about actually getting the album. I'm more concerned of what will happen with the band after it drops.
i can come back here
Don't hold your breath.
#98 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
Five pages ovenight. Nice.
While I do stand behind everything I wrote (anything else would make posting altogether rather futile), I deliberately worded some of my arguments to raise a discussion. Experimenting with a bit edgy style, if you may. For the record, I personally have followed and supported this band (which means chicken buckets instead of top hats) long enough to hope that they'll receive nothing but the best as far as record sales, tours and overall positive attention are concerned. They do deserve it.
But releasing CD is a big deal, the most important singular moment in the history this band, no matter how much the lineup would continue to rotate in the times to come. All those considering yours truly 'negative' should note that I am merely coming out as such due to the gravity of the situation. I'm sick and tired of Ax and the boys getting the short end of the stick for reasons either brought upon themselves or by circumstances beyond their control.
This should be the finishing line, which has so far eluded them. And here I still am, filled with doubt and concern over the future of this band instead of joy and compassion over the fact that they're finally hitting a homerun. I don't want a reunion, not before this band will run its course in a proper fashion. Wouldn't mind too much having Bumble instead of Bucket, but would like Robin and Brain, the retrievable ones, to return and tour for a year or two.
So far, the outlook of the payoff is looking more like a kiss-off: unless Ax and Azoff have a firm plan, which will very soon be set in motion, this thing is going to drop, make a little sound and go away again. Regardless of myself and my fellow fans may or may not deserve for sticking by all this time, I do feel this band fully deserves a right to be recognized as Guns N' Roses.
Because that's what they are.
Therefore, I'm positive towards the band and mainly negative towards the way they've been treated in the past - so far, the advent of CD's release has offered little assurance that things would, finally, change for the better.
Yowza!
#99 Guns N' Roses » "Guns N' Roses: Is It All Over? Does Anyone Care?" » 867 weeks ago
- sic.
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The heading comes from a November 1995 article in Metal Hammer. Sadly, it seems it hasn't lost its significance much in the past 13 years. After much anguish and disappointments, the album is finally coming out in less than 10 days.
It's a year and a half late from the infamous 03/06/07 'tentative' release date.
It's two years late from the promises made for November '06.
It's five years late from the final Geffen deadline of 12/31/03.
It's six years late from 09/02/02 and the aftermath of the VMA's, which went out in a whimper instead of the promised bang.
It's seven years late from June '01 and the ill-fated summer tour.
It's nine years late from the original Geffen deadline of 03/01/99.
And most of us have heard it by now, anyway.
The new management team, Azoff and Gould, have promised a 'monumental campaign', which would give the album what it deserves. Aside from some sneaky licensing deals with Rock Band 2 and Body of Lies (which bring money to, first and foremost, Universal, as they acquired the publishing rights to the songs in their buy-out of Sanctuary Group) and the odd choice for a single, I fail to see anything barely resembling a promotional campaign, let alone a monumental one.
The matter of fact is, the mythical album is coming out in a shape that is forced, asset-stripped and by all means, a shadow of what it would've gotten nine, six, or even two years ago. All involved are now left with a sensation of being underwhelmed, as there is no trilogy, no double album, not even that many tracks that've went unheard until now. Talks about a reunion with Slash & co have never gained as much ground, as most (including Slash himself in some occasions) considered Axl wants to release CD and be done with it before he'll commit to anything else.
Now the album's coming out and even Axl himself, with his prolonged silence on the eve of the supposed triumph, is ominously silent, refusing to do any press or public appearances. Most agree that the music's good enough for a Guns N' Roses album, but the Guns N' Roses that - by far and large - made this album no longer exist.
Even the title track alone is a testament to the insane process of creation; originally written by the first drummer, his follower re-recorded everything in attempt to sound like Dave Grohl. Neither are featured in the final recording, as Ax decided to toss up one of his so-called 'grand gestures' on the way of the touring drummer, obliterating two sets of perfectly serviceable drum tracks for no other reason that mere indulgence.
The Real Guns N' Roses of the 21st Century have, unfortunately, ran their course. Buckethead will not be coming back, and Robin's future with the band is looking bleaker by the moment. Has time finally caught up with Axl - has he realized now that he had everything going for himself if only he'd stepped up and delivered? His years as a frontman are still to be numbered, yet he can never hope to take the musical world by storm with a lineup worthy of the name in every sense imaginable.
Not that the said lineup ever really had a chance to come to age. After so many missteps and what-not, Axl overcame numerous self-imposed obstacles (incl. a ridiculous appearance with king-sized jerseys and sweat pants) and offered a glimpse of the real thing in Madison Squre Garden, 12/05/02. Looking back for a historical counterpart, I might recommend Wembley Stadium, London, 08/31/91; Izzy's last show.
The old band proved they could survive the dismissal of Adler and still come out strong. This lineup was no different. While there were a few shows in store for Paul Huge beyond Rock in Rio 3, the Brazilian crowds were his Farm Aid, the first and last piece of limelight the mystery man, previously known only from unflattering mentions in various articles, ever received alongside his fellow Hoosier.
The UYI lineup still made a wonderful pair of albums and managed to soldier on in life support despite losing much of what'd originally made them tick. In retrospect, it was a smart decision for the band to go on the road before the album release and the inevitable meltdown; the momentum gained was strong enough to carry them around the world for two and a half years, even though those remaining had by then turned into emotional wrecks or substance abusers, mechanically wandering through their motions on a nightly basis; the King Kong who'd now reached the top.
Now, there is no momentum. An album exists, but there's no recording lineup to hit the road, arouse controversy and go down in flying colors due to internal disputes. There's merely the shadow of that band, which now faces the same old problem; the need to tour behind something you did not create in the first place.
Axl wasted his definitive 'new era' lineup on AFD tributes. They were overpowering, glitchy, a strange eight-piece Frankenstein shoehorned into a five-piece of the hair-metal heyday. They looked and sounded peculiar because they had nothing to fall back into. There was no album to provide reference, no There Was A Time soloing under Axl's wails to demonstrate the audiences with the capabilities of that lineup. They knew they had a great album under their belts, but they had next to nothing to show for it.
And now they are no more. All that remains is Axl Rose and his mythical album, which, in less than 10 days, is subjected to fierce scrutiny worldwide.
Has the day finally come when Axl has found himself very alone with himself, as his album is now coming with next to no promotion? Or has he found the inner peace he's craved in the past and no longer gives a damn about what happens next, leaving the album to stand trial as a monument of his abilities and retreating to his mansion now that no-one can ask him to deliver anything more?
Or will he stand up and face the same music which he perfected by sacrificing everything?
#100 Re: Guns N' Roses » Freese leaves NIN - Robin stays(?) » 867 weeks ago
i think it has blown ages ago already...only event which kind of helped Axl save face was Ron's appointment in 06...
I could've lived with the early '06 lineup, but I guess I'm easy to please.