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#91 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:I think any change is good.
When you think the CD era songs are the "new" material and we've been hearing most of them for 21 years now, and it's even 12 years in the case of "rare" stuff like "If the World" since it's live debut.
Basically changing up the list is good.
That said...we have to be realistic...the band has an Acoustic ep, 2 cover EPs and 4 records to choose from.
There's only so different shows are going to get from each other really.
This has always been the problem once we got into the 2000s....
The discography is the smallest out of all the iconic bands....and one of the albums is a cover album and out of their hits, two are covers.
You could tell they were getting bored with their own setlists when they started including various covers like Black Hole Sun, Wichita Lineman, etc.
Hell...he even did this during the Chinese years with Sailing, Sway, The Seeker, etc.
I thought it was funny back then....his hardcore fans begging to hear a new CD song.... instead he performs covers nobody was asking for.
It finally dawned on me at some point that they were doing it to break up the monotony.
they have tons of UYI songs they could have played and a bunch of CD ones. They could have made a different set list every night if they wanted to
#92 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Madagascar » 205 weeks ago
The village version is the best version for sure. I do wonder if that extra guitar part we hear is Axl.
I do hate Axls vocals on the track, it is the only negative. It almost ruined the song for me but I got used to it.
The village versions for all the songs outside of TWAT and the missing CD extended solo are the best versions. They all sound so fresh and raw. If CD was released in 2002 with these versions, it would have been a different story, especially if they replaced the weaker tracks on CD with hard school, atlas and perhaps
#93 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Riad » 205 weeks ago
To this day it still blows my mind that this was one of the best songs they had.
You think this is one of the best songs they have? Or you think the label thought it was the best they had because of what made the album?
Because most of the locker songs are better than what we got on the album. And merck even talked about all the big guns that are still not to be released
#94 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
metallex78 wrote:misterID wrote:It's been a while since I've heard it, but I don't ever remember hearing Slash butcher a new era song. Maybe he struggled on that TWAT outro? I don't know. But like how they rearranged Better's and Hard Schools intro, I can see them doing the same to the others. I'd really love to hear Slash's take on Atlas Shrugged and State of Grace.
What is this strange universe I’ve entered where I actually agree with everything misterID says...?
But yeah, Slash hasn’t really butchered any CD tracks, though I expected him to do more with the This I Love solo, than the shreddy noodling stuff he does on it.
The version he played at Orlando 2016 is biblical:
A lot of the other versions of TIL, he does improv-noodle a bit, but the Orlando solo feels like it has structure and flows between moods.I don't really think his style lends itself to the TWAT outro, I'm kinda baffled they didn't give that one to Fortus tbh.
how do you call that good?
If people think that is good then I can see why people are saying he is not butchering the solos lol
#95 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
Axl sings Slither like a person singing karaoke of a song they are hearing for the first time and is just reading the teleprompter while singing.
#96 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
That’s because Slash is a riff based guitar player, responsible for GN’Rs classic guitar sound. And on CD, that guitar sound was missing.
If your friends honestly thought it was Slash playing guitar on the original Hardschool demo, then they have no idea what they’re talking about. The guitars on the demo sound like the rest of the CD album, not like Slash blues-based riff rock.
They probably just thought it was slash because it was a "new" gnr song they have never heard before.
Most people just hear a song with Axl and assume its with Slash
#97 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…If The World » 205 weeks ago
Another bang average song. I like the production on this better - you can hear what resembles a band playing for much of it rather that a dense, indistinguishable mess.
The Bucket solo is the highlight - it's one of his best on the album.
If the world is easily the best song on the album. Even with it being overproduced. The demo is still way better but at least its not as overproduced as most of the other songs.
#98 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Sorry » 205 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:I've always loved the lyrics to this one. Yes they are rather "immature" but they are honest and dripping with venom. Axl's honesty is his strongpoint as a songwriter. I don't detect much difference in the demo, but the melancholy little intro they added live 2009-2014 (I haven't heard a NITL version, so I don't know if it's still there or not) is great.
I agree to a point, but his anger can bring out his worst and most corny, also. The "I'll kick your ass" line approaches Shotgun Blues territory.
sorry could have been great if it was not full of always whiny lyrics.
#99 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
The clip from soundcheck was 14 seconds....I reserve judgement until we get a full performance.
Based on how slash plays all the other CD songs it will be terrible.
hell slash plays the Cd songs worse than DJ did and that is saying a lot
#100 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 205 weeks ago
davegnfnr2k wrote:metallex78 wrote:Slash improved Hardschool to actually sound like a Guns N’ Roses song. If you think that’s butchering it, then you don’t really like GN’R’s classic sound.
Hard School before Slash butchered it was already classic GNR sound.
Someone should repost the clip so we can all see how terrible it is.
Hardschool before Slash sounds rubbish. Guitars sound like they were recorded on an Atari console. There’s nothing classic GN’R about it.
That is funny since when it leaked and I showed it to my friends they all thought slash was playing on it.
You are the only person I have ever seen claim that hard school clip was good. But to each his own.
