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#991 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Your favorite GN'R side-project? » 473 weeks ago

I checked out "Believe In Me".

I like Tommy's solo stuff more than Duff's but both of their vocals can be grating and never get out of middle gear.

"Fucked Up Beyond Belief" was awesome. Jeff Beck and Duff's Prince influences shining through? Fuck yeah.

#992 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Your favorite GN'R side-project? » 473 weeks ago

I've listened to Loaded's Sick but that's it.

I'll have to check these out.

#993 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

It might be a reasonable response if we knew more about other conversations.

I don't agree.

What's more a realistic scenario: a professional producer coming in and being an asshole and rage quitting or Axl at the height of his megalomania being an unprofessional dick when someone gracefully quits the project after two days?

You know who else didn't want to work nights? Duff. The list of people who got tired of Axl's antics is fairly exhaustive at this point.

Smoking Guns wrote:

Why are we still letting this album haunt Axl??? So silly. Let's get the new shit with Slash and Duff and make this a "band" again.

Until the band dispenses with the Nixon administration approach to public relations and releases new music, that's not going to happen.

#994 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I can be critical of Axl but this straight up sounds like this producer just wasn't willing to work nights.

Oh please.

At no point is "fuck you, lose my pager number" a reasonable response.

And the "I work when I want and only when I want" philosophy worked wonders for Axl. roll

#995 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tim Palmer's two days on CD » 473 weeks ago

I would say that Catcher, IRS, SOD, and TWAT all had vocals by 2000 when David Wild heard the album for the Rolling Stone piece. After all, he made a special designation for Oklahoma, now Berlin, as being an instrumental only.

I can't find the Zakk Wylde quote about the album sounding like "fire and ice" but always thought that was about Prostitute. The vocal take quality and sound seems in line with those other tracks to support my theory. So there's roughly half of an album with vocals by 2000.

It is an interesting onion to peel, to be sure.

#997 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl and the Haunted Piano at Houston » 473 weeks ago

The irony is Axl probably should've done what people were telling him to do all along.

The jig was up the moment Robin left for Nine Inch Nails. At that point, it was a slow death march to the bottom.

Azoff was certainly unscrupulous in his methods but I think everyone in their right minds would've taken a reunited Guns N' Roses and Van Halen world tour in 2008 rather than 6 years of tedium, band infighting, and DJ Ashba. Imagine Slash and Duff touring in promotion of Chinese with a hungry, motivated Axl.

It's depressing to reflect on all of the wasted time and possibility.

#998 Re: Guns N' Roses » On this day in 1988... » 474 weeks ago

Ragnar wrote:

Surprisingly, I find UYIs more dated and inconsistent than AFD.

What do you mean by dated?

I would agree that both UYI and CD are far more inconsistent than Appetite. The strength of AFD is that it was five guys working in sync and that resulted in a great, cohesive record. It's also all firmly couched in the mid-1980s. The overt misogyny, verse-chorus-verse-set piece guitar solo structure, general excess, and so forth.

I think that UYI and CD have aged more gracefully partly because of Axl's growth as an artist but also because of a greater variety of musical textures.

#999 Re: Guns N' Roses » On this day in 1988... » 474 weeks ago

AFD is a great record and deserving of it's reputation but it's never connected with me as much as the Illusions material.

The songwriting is occasionally lucid and other times completely on the nose. I think critics and those coming to it with fresher ears could say that it's outdated, cliche, and cheesy. It's the sort of record art rock fans and other progressos could easily point to when dismissing classic rock as a whole.

I enjoy it but also hope that this tour is essentially the AFD retirement tour and Axl gets to releasing more music as soon as possible.

As far as Nightrain, I've never been much of a fan, outside of the insanely perfect Rock Am Ring performance in 2006.

#1000 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl and the Haunted Piano at Houston » 474 weeks ago

I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

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