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#1031 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl and Buckethead/Robin? » 475 weeks ago
I don't think they're entirely mutually exclusive.
Axl's wants to release CD II and Robin and Buckethead would likely be featured in full or in part.
I think it'd be great to see either of those two guys play the songs that they wrote and recorded onstage. Some of us really enjoyed the CD album and would like to hear the other half and any additional music that the 2002 band wrote / recorded. Until then, it's an unresolved situation.
It was also inspired by the fact that Slash and Axl are now on increasingly good terms and given that, that anything can happen.
#1032 Guns N' Roses » Axl and Buckethead/Robin? » 475 weeks ago
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Do you think Axl will ever reunite with Buckethead or Robin?
The scenarios where this could happen are legion but do you think it ever happens or have we passed the rubicon?
#1033 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
Well let's hope you guys are right then and it's smooth sailing from now on.
I'd love to be wrong but I'm not particularly optimistic.
I think the most reasonable expectation the fans can have is for a VBO with some unreleased bonus tracks.
The label probably wants to release music ASAP. Their cash cow is sexier than ever and everybody wants some milk. I also think the label wants to milk that cow dry.
The business and artistic sides of things are pretty complicated, tour selling like hotcakes.
Soon isn't the word. Same old shit.
#1034 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Orleans Superdome » 475 weeks ago
I had a 23% chance of winning tickets to this show. Naturally, I did not win. Sad times.
#1035 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
Perhaps. However it's the role of an A&R guy to help advise whats a crossover hit and when you have a record and when you don't from a commercial standpoint. On a similar front VR rejected the advice from the label that they should "keep writing" for libertad too. These label guys look for what will sell and while it can put you at creative odds with the label, other acts deal with it.
I agree, but...
The 1999 record would've been a modest and perfectly balanced group of songs. Half UYI III and half industrial faire.
Even if Ezrin is right, three good songs are enough to carry an album. It's your Zeppelin I. Good stuff. Build from there.
There's no reason, creative or financial, that Axl's 1997 summer project shouldn't have been out by the end of 2002. Anything after that is smearing your steak in ketchup or just poor business.
I tend to say pre-2003 = label, post-2003 = Axl but the whole thing is a comedy of errors and the fans are the ones who suffer.
#1036 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
M.I.A. is going through something similar regarding getting music released.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mu … story.html
I didn't follow the politics or fine details of the thing but I do know generally that Kesha is stuck with her label too. It seems to be a common thing nowadays.
#1037 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
All I'm saying is, the fan base has moved from "Axl is the devil - everything is his fault" to "Axl is a Saint - the label is the devil" and the reality has to be in-between those positions.
All very good points, especially this one.
#1038 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
I'm not saying that the label doesn't bear a lot of the responsibility also, but it's odd to me to dismiss Axl's involvement altogether. Why didn't this happen to metallica? To Ac/Dc? to every other act then if it's just the label?
GNR is the only band with this sort of a history, and while the label I'm sure made life hard, some of that has to do with the plans Axl made and with his responses to disapproval.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. AC/DC making a low budget, 40-minute album about pussy and partying is hardly a guy rebuilding a band from scratch to make an ambitious art rock record.
I don't think the record was ready to come out until 2002 and with issues with making that / getting it released at the record company, the VMA performance being a "disaster" or whatever Axl called it, and the tour selling poorly, he decided to try to live and fight another day.
"I had to deal with so many other things that don't have to do with music but have to do with the industry. There's such a loss of time. It was more about survival. There wasn't anyone to work with or trust. Someone would come in to help produce and the reality was they just wanted to mix it and get it out the door. They had a different agenda... I'm surviving this war, not the one who created this war."
The TL;DR of the whole saga seems to be: rotating cast of band members, rotating cast of executives/producers, and Axl's personal issues all cause delays. Axl is certainly culpable but the label rejecting a new album from a hit producer like Beavan and a rockstar with a track record of brilliance may just be the height of corporate hubris.
Let's hope the next decade is filled with new GNR music. I really want to see Axl get artistic redemption. Huge fan of that dude.
#1039 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 475 weeks ago
The main reason to release a GH/Best of is to reintroduce the general public to GNR. Soundgarden did the same thing and I expect it in this situation as well. The GH released 12 years ago is not a great representation of the band....same as with Soundgarden's A Sides released a few years after their breakup. A 2 disc compilation will dive deeper into the band's discography than GH did.
I agree that there's a need for a VBO, if only to have something to sell during the tour, but I think it's fairly delusional to think anyone will care about a VBO beyond hardcore fans or fans of rock in general. There's no such thing as introducing someone to GNR. GNR is a crazy woman with multiple personality disorder. That and it's 2016. The attention span is not there, the economics of music are in dire straights, and rock's relevancy is at an all-time low.
I can't think of a major act in recent memory who hasn't done a quick or surprise release like Apple. Here's the thing or here's the thing next month after a lead digital single. We have your attention? Good. Go get this thing now. No Machavellian three step plan or anything like that.
The world has changed considerably since 2005, while smart them, those philosophies have gone the way of the dodo.
Another reason they should just release CD2 and then get to today is because CD itself was a mishmash of genres, styles, and musical period influences. They need to get into 2016 / contemporary sound and message if they want to even be close to being relevant again. The longer Axl / the label hoards, the more quickly the world will pass them by. The sooner they release music, the better position they are for the future.
Release 3 EPs each with a relatively cohesive direction (OMG, CD, Riad, Shacklers, Silkworms, Scraped) and keep the momentum going and repeat. Station To Station, Low, Heroes. Man this guy is diverse and brilliant.
I posted this here or in another thread but let's say they do release new music bundled in with a VBO. What do they put on it?
They gain nothing by throwing out some new tracks unless a full album is close by. OMG isn't indicative of CD. Maybe it was supposed to be but putting the burden on 1 song or even 1 album will suffocate GNR like it did the new band. The less they release, the more it's compared to AFD and Jungle. They need death by a thousand cuts and attentive fan-service to do the job, not 1 song that's going to have to change music or other nonsense.
#1040 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stay of Execution Album Cover » 475 weeks ago
Amazing work. Is this your profession or are some people just that good at stuff casually?
Thanks! Yeah, it is/was my profession.