NY Giants82 wrote:

Jameslofton wrote:

How many years does the guy get a free pass with growing pains? The guy was handed the starting job without even earning it. Fuck growing pains. If the Giants felt he was ready to carry the franchise, then I think year 3 is time to stop the excuses. They had a proven QB at the helm(Warner) and just tossed him aside mid season so Eli could have some growing pains and because his last name was Manning. Here we are three years later, the team has went downhill in that time frame, and Coughlin is REALLY close to losing his job there.

The team has slid in the Eli era. He is as predictable as a sunset. Plays ok early in the season, starts sucking, and then the Giants slide. repeat every year. I do think they will make the playoffs, but if the usual Eli regression happens, there is a chance they will miss the playoffs. A few teams are right on their trail.

As a hardcore Giants fan, I want to ask you this question: How many more years of "growing pains" are allowed before you are willing to call him a bust and have the team try and pick up the pieces?

Different QBs develop at different rates. In fact, I think Eli has developed nicely. Would I like him to have to developed quicker? Sure, but he is fine as of now.

Warner was brought in as a stop gap and to make the transition easier for Eli. He came in knowing what he was being brought here for. They Giants got Eli in the draft, and then signed Warner shortly thereafter. He knew what he was coming in for. And it has nothing to do with his last name. You dont get drafted based on your last name. NFL teams dont draft that high based on name alone. This isnt the NBA.

This is the third year Eli has started. The Giants are also on their way to making the playoffs for the third straight year. Eli has nothing to do with that, right? They won the division his first year starting. Nothing to do with that either? Also, can you tell me how they slide every year under Eli? They started the season in 2005 6-2, the second half they were 5-3. Yeah they sure slid then didnt they. In 2006, 6-2 to start, and finished 2-6. Yes that did suck, but there were other factors involved if you really want to get into that.

So if he was Eli Jones he would have went just as high? I don't think so.

As far as the Warner/Eli thing, you may be right as I am not much of a Giants fan, but I remember Warner being pretty pissed about that fiasco. Didn't his wife even make some comments regarding that situation? In my opinion, Warner should have remained the starter for at least two years. That gives Eli time to learn the system on the sideline, and would be more comfortable once he is brought in as the starter. Warner almost passed for 500 yards on Sunday. He clearly still has the skills, so giving up on him just to throw Eli to the wolves was a bit ridiculous.

Yeah, QBs take different amounts of time to develop, but like I asked you earlier, when do you give up and start looking elsewhere? Its obvious year 3 isn't your threshold. Year five? Six?