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#101 Re: The Garden » NFL 2023/24 season » 84 weeks ago

I may not even watch it this year. It's the worst matchup possible.

Chiefs win the Taylor Bowl.

Had the NFL known a year ago that this craze would happen, she would've performed the halftime show.

I was already losing interest in football. This season almost killed it completely.

#102 Re: The Garden » Current Events... » 84 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

As much as I hate to admit it...it does seem like Trump is on a path to win again. I've always hated Trump...I actually think Biden has done an ok job...the thing that will take him down are these stupid social issues.

As a business owner, I can tell you the government is paying businesses to stay open...maybe that's what socialism is? If I were being honest, I'd say the economy isn't good...I do not know how we sustain this and all these other social issues very likely go by the wayside with enough people to vote for the economy over all sorts of other stuff.

He's a one termer.

Not only did they refuse to abandon the extremism, they doubled down on it with the Hamas supporters and the illegal alien nonsense.

That's not a winning formula.

He's also getting much worse. That statement he made a few days ago where it's just undecipherable gibberish coming out of his mouth would've instantly created a crisis in the 20th century. Now it's just laughed at like a meme.

I'm not a fan of Trump but he's capable of stringing a few sentences together. He wins by default.

The debates are going to be a disaster. I bet they don't even do them. If they do, Biden will have to freebase an 8 ball of cocaine to handle it.

#103 Re: Guns N' Roses » Duff writes new Civil War for GNR: "Amen" » 84 weeks ago

I loved So Fine back in the day.



Duff: So I wrote a song called “Amen” and I sent it to Slash, and I said, “This is a Guns song. This is a Civil War, this is a new Civil War type of song.” Civil War is a Guns N’ Roses song-

I'm not falling for this again.

They will forever be unable to hype me up for new material. All the patented GNR hype that used to almost be part of their "brand" was squandered on CD.

Either record it and release it or don't.

Don't tell me....show me.


misterID wrote:

One of Axl’s complaints was that he was the sole songwriter in the new lineup so this could be a good thing

Yeah...and it shows.



Edit

One more thing....Civil War is peak level GNR.

You telling me that a 60 year old Duff Mckagan is currently creating peak level GNR material? 18

They think we're dopes....

#104 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 84 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce wrote:
misterID wrote:

The blues is Seymour, I don’t know how anyone could see it was about Slash tbh. I think he wraps a lot of people together in songs

The Blues matches up perfectly with how Axl talked about Slash in the period it was recorded. There's nothing romantic about it.

I used to think The Blues was another Steph/Erin song and thought anyone who believed it was about Slash was bat shit crazy.

It's about Slash... unfortunately.

He just couldn't move on from these people.


misterID wrote:

IRS is about Slash

Absolutely.

While it's definitely repetitive, it's one of his high points creatively. His megalomania is on full display.



Sky Dog wrote:

axl92 No wedding cake as well…bound to be a flop…no Stephanie Seymour…everything went downhill once she left the fold….

Everything went downhill when Izzy left the fold.

33 years and counting, the big 3 have written a grand total of zero songs without him.


polluxlm wrote:

She gave us Beta!

I want the alternate timeline where he fucks Elle MacPherson instead of Steph.


There's Billy Joel alternate timelines as well. He had his pick of Brinkley, Whitney Houston before she got famous, and a young Elle MacPherson.

He went with Brinkley.



Sky Dog wrote:
Miguelox26 wrote:

Guys Axl said it years ago, The blues or Street of dreams is about Dylan and it was the message he wanted him to read when he grew up, he lived with him and treated him like his son, those are memories of Axl who doesn't know if only They are that, memories of a past that only lives in him, there is the interest that Dylan as an adult would listen to it, as a reminder that he once played his father!, his father.

I think that is Atlas Shrugged…The Blues  is about a woman …just my 2 cents

Yep.

Out of the songs we've heard so far, Atlas is the only one lyrically that would fit with the Dylan theme.

The rest is all about Slash, Izzy, Steph, Erin, fans, a song about JD Salinger and a song about not trying to stop them even though they did everything to stop themselves.

#105 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago

Just watched it again.

Why in the flying fuck does the live footage look so terrible?!? 18

Jesu Christ.

Who came up with the idea to turn Melissa into a boy?

#106 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 85 weeks ago

This is a surprise. I didn't realize a video release was imminent.

I read the comments before watching. I had a feeling that the negative comments had a tad bit of hyperbole.

Just watched it...

It's terrible. It looks bad and it's not even mildly interesting. I'll watch it one more time to see if I missed anything in it. After that, no more.

The Unreal engine idea sounds better but it would probably still be underwhelming.



I'll give em kudos for even doing a video. Sad when you have to give kudos for them doing what other bands do all the time. They could have easily done no video at all or a lyric video.

Maybe it can somehow go viral but I doubt it. The song is already old news.



The visual style is great, but it's so nuanced and deep that it's almost impossible to extract any real meaning from it

I feel the opposite...

It's shallow and nonsensical. It conveys nothing mentioned in that statement released above. It even goes in circles and repeats itself.

Looking at it from that angle, maybe it does fit the song.

Another reason it can't really properly go with the song even if it wants to is because it's GNR management who helped come up with the idea. Fernando, Beta, and whoever the fuck didn't write the song. They're not visionaries... they're a family who essentially won the lottery.

So instead of an interesting concept/story about child abuse, we get random AI crap thrown at the wall. There's no real narrative here.

Looks like it's getting mixed reactions on YouTube. Not knocking anyone who likes it but I just don't see any meat on the bones.

No...I don't think it would go over better if released by another band.

I do wish Roger Waters was 30-40 years old instead of 80. Now there's a visionary who could've used AI to come up with something interesting to go with his music.

#107 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago

Only rival vocally for Axl back in the day was Cornell.


Sky Dog wrote:

Monkeychow, Axl and Kurt couldn’t sniff or hold Jimi Hendrix’s jock. Hendrix is on a whole other level.

Hendrix might be the most tragic music death of all....he was literally just getting started.

I don't remember the details but before the end, he briefly wanted to do some type of supergroup with Paul McCartney and Miles Davis.

Imagine that timeline.

#108 Re: The Garden » NFL 2023/24 season » 87 weeks ago

That was a pretty good wild card weekend. Dallas getting throttled the highlight.

Im so sick of the NFL turning into the Taylor Swift show. It's beyond ridiculous. I had to skip that game after they showed her a handful of times. I can't stand that look on her face. She gets off on it.

#109 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

The elephant in the room is what happened to the songwriting.

Obviously we know he's one of the greatest songwriters of his generation and indeed probably all time...

I no longer believe this.

An incredible singer with a unique voice and insane charisma who showed flashes of brilliance creatively.

The majority of his career, including what should've been his prime/second act, completely squandered on a project he couldn't even finish.


Most accounts suggest that of the many pieces submitted by brain/bucklet/robin most never got lyrics.


Of the songs post Chinese Democracy - it's the same story - but these ones were put out without the additional inspiration. Hardschool is mostly choruses with a long instrumental in the middle. Absurd is a classic rant repeated over and over with no third verse or chorus. Perhaps is the most developed - but even it fundamentally repeats itself from half way through. The general is what one verse and one chorus repeated three times without an outro. Don't get me wrong I love these songs, but it's clear the difference between these and Novermber Rain or Coma was these songs were waiting for additional ideas that don't exist.

CD II was never finished. It's not even open to debate anymore. We've now heard the meat and potatoes of it.

CD II is basically overproduced demos with shitty mixes with a quickly whipped up verse+chorus verging on placeholders but he never went back to any of it.

Don't know what to tell you now...

Yeah...that's pretty obvious.


I'm no longer surprised why none of this came out in the 2010s. It's a miracle we ever got any of it.

Now we just need to hear Oklahoma and Seven. Then it's a wrap.





jimmythegent wrote:

The General is undoubtedly one of the worst songs in the entire GNR catalogue

I wouldn't go that far...but I'm with you in spirit.

It wants to be an epic but it can't because the writer gave up before properly finishing the damn thing.

#110 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago

otto wrote:
James wrote:

Any examples of trip hop with intentionally shitty mixes?

I  didn't realize that was some sort of element of the genre.

I guess Portishead is doing it wrong.  16

Brain & Melissa:
You can have a listen and have an opinion.

Never mentioned trip hop but I liked the irony. You must be fun at parties.

You think that's intentionally shitty and not simply low budget? If intentional, they did a terrible job conveying that.

You didn't have to mention trip hop. The General is obviously in that category regardless of who mentions it.

I used to be fun at parties...but then I got old.

Sorry for the long delay. I was in the hospital for a minor procedure, caught some horrifying flu, and almost died. Never been in the hospital that long before. It was hell.

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