Agreed...a good example to me is the title track - the demo of that is so powerful in the verses with Tommy's bass chugging loudly, and its almost totally lost in the final mix.

I know this will be an unpopular idea with you guys as you're big bucket fans etc....but I was listening to Hardschool, Perhaps and Absurd in the car...then swapped over to Chinese - and it was so obvious to me how badly it needs a rock mix to fit with the back catalogue.

It's a wonderful artistic album as it was. But I would love to hear a studio of Slash/Duff on the title track, TIL (with the scream vocals from the dance remix), Catcher and better, with re-recorded parts from Slash/Duff. Make it as like a bonus EP or something to fill in time before their next originals project. It doesn't have to replace the original version in the shops either, more like a special edition disc 2 or something. It's just every time I see Slash and Duff play them live I realise how hollow those recordings sounded in the final mix.

There's a few things, some of the lyrics sound like they are alternative takes or reinforced vocals - a few of the 'heys' at the start have a slightly different tone than the demo imo.

The major thing is the mixing on the chorus has the "got a lot more than I bargained for" vocals with his lower register at the front and the high version in the background, in the demo these parts were much more prominently in the high register I think.

Also there used to be a "save me" Axl backing vocal in the background on those parts which is either gone or very quiet now.

I think he's trying to be funny - like quoting lyrics from perhaps and the general in his answer.

But there's been so much drama over the years that I agree some straight info wouldn't hurt!

That said, perhaps is out, the general is coming, it's party time.

I just need them not to forget about state of grace next time hahahaha.

My guess is because it's a bit weird. The modern band thinks of itself as UYI Gnr or before. Even when they do CD tracks they put classic rock spin on it.

The inaudible general leak we heard sounded much more like an art piece, cinematic classical music, slow passages like a dance track, epic bass drops and banche demonic passion god tier Axl mode.

Awesome...stuff for us...but not for the radio...and not the kinda thing that follows SCOM in the set...

(then again neither was Absurd and they made that rock enough to play - so who knows)

Still it's great news, I think the song sounded like it had a kickass chorus/ rant section.

So what's the next batch of 2 then?

Atlas/State of Grace????

Or does Quicksong/Zodiac?oklohoma feature?

Slash basically said it was these 4 or 5 then on to a brand new album - which would be good psychologically but I do wanna hear one or two of these old tracks still - they're so cool.

I think it sounds like that too.

It's kind of a theme on CD I think - a lot of the songs and demos seem to randomly swap genres mid song or incorporate elements you wouldn't expect within the style of song - seems to be something Axl was interested in experimenting with.

I love how the album turned out, but I must say I often find it jarring - when it's done well it works but it can feel bolted on.