James Lofton wrote:

misterID wrote:

This in no way similar to Oh My God. I think everyone involved is done testing the waters. Especially since nine songs have leaked off the album, they're not going to throw one we haven't heard out there on top of it.

Plus, this is being treated completely different than Oh My God.

What do prior leaks have to do with Shackler itself? Nothing.  Its one song being used to promote a product. Thats what Oh My God was, and thats what this is.

The only way its being treated differently is Axl is giving zero info about the track, and I don't consider that much of a good thing. Hard to promote a song when the composer of it doesn't give two shits and the singer isn't interested in talking either.

Why the hell would they need a "test the waters" track, especially since almost all mainstreams rock mags and critics have reviewed the leaks already? They've already tested the waters. Shit, some of the songs have already charted on radio. That makes no sense to have a "test the waters" track when they already know what the reaction to the new GNR sound is going to be. I don't see smart people like Axl's management team blowing their load on a NEW GNR song, never heard before, knowing what the reaction to that would be, just to test the waters.

And wasn't Oh My God released without his permission?

While I agree the album should've been dropped years ago, since apparently it's the same material.  I don't agree that there's a plan B to the Rock Band release.  I don't see how GNR could get away with announcing on all major media outlets that a new song would be featured on the game and then go around and make it a classic GNR tune.  I mean I know this is GNR, and nothing ever goes to plan.  But why would they even post on their website about the song if there was even the slightest possibility that the song(s) could be switched?  I know the website is hardly ever updated, but that supports my point even more.  They could've said nothing about it, then they'd have an easy out.  They've commented on it, and we're all expecting it, I don't see how they could back out at this point.  Maybe I'm naive.

Arcade Roses wrote:

The only way its being treated differently is Axl is giving zero info about the track, and I don't consider that much of a good thing. Hard to promote a song when the composer of it doesn't give two shits and the singer isn't interested in talking either.

For a game/comeback song of this significance, it defies logic.  In a month or so, most guys (and gals) are gonna be rocking out to a new GN'R song on their consoles in their living room (alongside older (and some contemporary) songs of more considerable fame), that now more-or-less under a month before no one (in the general public, not all affiliated with the VG and song 'release') has heard.  Give me a break.

I truly expect, like the HD experience, 'Paradise City' or 'Jungle' to be the song they play to on September 14.  Anybody on here who ordered this thing in advance may want to monitor this situation very closely from now in, I guess....

By the looks of things, Axl won't even attach his name to that rereleased 1987 AFD (another nail in the reunion coffin by the way).  Thus, (him not doing the same to) a new project of this 'magnitude' is no surprise to me IMHO.

Thats a bit doom and gloom. WE will likely get Shackler, I'm just saying that people shouldn't be shocked if there's a plan B that involves rehash.

I just don't see this as some innovative marketing. Axl and GNR aren't even talking and we're a month away. Its amateurish, and I'm surprised Azoff is even allowing this to go on. I know I've said this a hundred times, but if Axl or anyone associated with GNR want anything new GNR related to be taken seriously, its time to drop this lame mystery crap and treat it like its a real  song/album. There is no mystery anymore so trying to act like there is just makes it look like they are spoofing themselves.

Bumblefoot was asked about this track at some show, and all he would say is that it kicks ass.

Bumble, you're a couple weeks away from having to potentially promote this, and thats all you're "allowed" to say??:nervous:

Sounds like Mister Magoo may once again have hijacked this train.

Axl S wrote:

misterID wrote:

I think our best bet is if a few people get early copies of RB2 and they upload Shacklers to
the net or Youtube.

The hoarders either don't have it or won't get off it. I'm thinking if they had it would have
dropped by now.

...for all we know the words Shackler's Revenge are never sung in the song....

Oh god I hope you're right. I still maintain that Shackler's Revenge is one of the dumbest song titles I've ever heard of.

I still don't think they really give a shit about money in the long run. They are all filthy rich
and a reunion for them would be for sentimental value only. Slash has said many, many times
that every year someone is throwing insane ammounts of money for a reunion and that hasn't
made them budge once.

It could be a part of Axl and Azoffs "plans" but the other guys would have to go along with it.
And I just don't see them wanting to unless there is a huge understanding about what is what, and
no one is going to be dictated to.  I just don't see that being a very realistic opition.