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#121 Re: Management » Moving The Website » 868 weeks ago

The chat has never worked for me.

Even when I get in, I can't see a blasted thing - not even my own writing.

#122 Re: The Sunset Strip » Horror Franchises that Should be Killed Off » 868 weeks ago

One of the great ironies of the world is that director Joe Chappelle was called out as the person who shot down Halloween 666: The Curse of Michael Myers (his released cut is even more confusing than the Producer's Cut), yet he was later hired by Miramax to shoot additional scenes for Hellraiser: Bloodline in an effort to 'save' that film.

Howling III has its roots in the gung-ho attitude of Australian independent films of the 70's/80's, and therefore it should always be viewed in that context. Not defending the film in particular, but it's a product of its time.

Nightmare on Elm St 4 was a financial success and practically saved New Line Cinema from extinction. Without that, we would've not had, say, Lord of the Rings the way we did. Again, check your facts before slinging the mud. Horror sequels are easy targets but in order to say something worthwhile, I'd encourage the scribes to do their homework.

Ah, journalism, we barely knew thee.

#123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Whispers - The Secret History of the New Studio Album » 868 weeks ago

Will told me the 04-07 links have been fixed now.

It was a bug which never occured to us. 17

#124 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 868 weeks ago

Brett wrote:

My main problem with CD is Axl's lack of vocabulary and his singular songs that are extremely relevant to him, but should have been written broader so more people could relate to his music. TWAT is about Axl Rose, Estranged is about Axl Rose but subtle enough that anyone can take something from that song.

In all fairness, Ax has mentioned in the past that his main lyrical inspiration has been his moribund relationship to Stephanie Seymour and her son, Dylan. While it may result with a bunch of songs of Ax singing how miserable he is, it also allows him to explore deep emotions and gain a sense of honesty as to what he writes/sings about. That's always been a big part of Ax's songwriting; he more often than not really believes in the stuff he puts out.

#125 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Whispers - The Secret History of the New Studio Album » 868 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

this is really awesome stuff, but the links for 2004-2007 are not working

Make sure you're logged in when clicking the links. There's apparently a glitch which makes 04-07 inaccessible for guests.


supaplex wrote:

sic. you're sick. you're like a walking gnr encyclopedia.

It didn't happen overnight. The bulk of the research goes back for years, though I only got around to putting it all together with the recent revamp of Evo.

James and Will were ready to give it a home it needed; without them, this would've never happened.

#126 Re: Management » Moving The Website » 868 weeks ago

The apostrophes in Chinese Whispers are a bit of a mess, I take it that this is a temporary glitch caused by the move.

Other than that, it seems all systems are a go.

#127 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chris Pitman Interview » 868 weeks ago

Full transcript:

DMG sat down for a very special interview with Chris Pitman, Guns N' Roses percussionist, and one of the principal songwriters on new album Chinese Democracy. The album breaks a 14-year-long release drought for the band.

How did you get involved in music in the first place? How did you know it was the career for you?

If you're a kid, and you get advice from a band like The Beatles or Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin, that's who you aspire to be. You can be into sports, or you can be into music. And I'm from Kansas City originally, in middle America, and there's not much to do there, apart from growing corn, tending the cows, or joining a rock band!

Was that middle American heritage what helped you share a bond with Guns N' Roses frontman (and Indiana native) Axl Rose?

Oh yeah, certainly. When we first met, he didn't know I was from Kansas City. And when I said it, we had something in common because we were from the mid-West. It was almost like we were long lost brothers because of that fact - we had that bond and that connection. And then, in both our cases, something happened and we both ended up out here in Los Angeles. It's a great melting pot for musicians, as I'm sure you know.

What do you think of the reaction and fan response to your new single 'Chinese Democracy'?

People are always asking us when our record is coming out, like all the time, and yesterday it was kind of a shock when it actually did come out. And suddenly it was 'hey, it's coming out, right now!' It's awesome. You know, Guns N' Roses is such a popular band, so it's an enormous response. And when you get so many people and you get jazzed up, you couldn't ask for anything more.

Turning to your new project Sex Tapes - where did the musical inspiration come from for the band?

We weren't trying to get a specific sound. That was the only sound we could really get. That was more the sound of a collaboration with the guitar player and myself. He had played in an earlier version of Jane's Addiction, with Perry Farrell, so he had a rather hard rock style. He had these great riffs and I just wanted to see what I could put on top of it. It has a very LA punk vibe to it that we like. It's just kinda balls to the wall rock.

There's been a lot of talk about a Guns N' Roses collaboration between yourself and Dizzy Reed, on a track known as 'Silkworms'. It has been confirmed that this track will not make the final cut of Chinese Democracy. Why is this? Does the track have a future as a B-side or future release?

I hope so. That song in particular that you are talking about, 'Silkworms', it ended up being this incredible track that sounded like Guns N' Roses 10 or 15 years in the future. It was so far removed from our other songs that we had to put it in this other place. Concept-wise, it didn't fit with Chinese Democracy. We hope we will have other songs that match that kind of futuristic sound. It's a really exciting track because it morphs into this crazy sound, but it was out so much in the other direction that we have to let time catch up with it.

Queen's Brian May was involved with the album making process and played on some of the tracks. Did you work with him much and do you think his input will survive on the final cut?

That was one of the biggest joys of my life. He's the greatest guitarist in the world to me. To meet him and see what a sweet fellow he is was great. He came in and just played these solos that just ripped up everything we were doing - you would expect nothing else from him. That was quite a while ago now, that was around 2000, 2001. So I'm not really sure what ended up on the record or on this record that we might have done, but he is amazing.

Another Guns track, 'If The World', is featured in the film Body Of Lies. This is a track you co-wrote with Axl. Have you had a chance to see your song featured on the big screen?

I saw it last week, and it was a cool film. It was very dark. It was about a tough time in America, plus it's hard to watch movies about Iraq. I don't know if it was a little bit wrong but it was a very cool movie. That track was particularly good to work on - it was a track that was recorded quickly. We did it very quickly and it felt right to put it on that movie.

Back to Sex Tapes - why did you feel now was the time for a solo project, as opposed to the years when Guns have been off the road or when times were less hectic?

Probably because I am so busy with the writing and production of the Guns thing, and even though it might not seem like something is happening, we are always working on it. We got close to the summer, the Guns album was near completion and since we'd done the drum tracks for Sex Tapes almost two years ago, we thought 'okay, this is our chance to do it'. We got in the studio for one night and put the drums down.

Why do you think Guns N' Roses are so popular after all this time?

It's snowballed with each generation. If you are committed to what you do and dedicated with no expense spared, then I think people like that. They like the energy of not knowing what's happening. As long as you come through on your end and put on great live shows and release albums, then people will support you.

SexTapes' debut album is released on iTunes on 11 November, Body Of Lies goes on general release on 21 November and Guns N' Roses' new album Chinese Democracy is released worldwide on 23 November

Daily Music Guide

#128 Re: 1999 » 1999: Chinese Whispers » 868 weeks ago

Line up!

Others would follow on Brian May's heels to substitute Robin. Former Marilyn Manson guitarist Zim Zum (who, incidentally, played on their Sean Beavan-produced album, Mechanical Animals), was possibly approached.

"At the end of Zim Zum's tour of duty as guitarist in Marilyn Manson he entered into self-imposed exile for a year in his Chicago home. He turned down offers to join a band which he describes as having 'an appetite for destruction'." (Chart Attack, 11/05/00)


Stevie Salas (who'd go on to work on Mick Jagger's Goddess in the Doorway) did a brief try-out with GNR in November.

"Oh, just a while ago, I jammed with the new Guns N' Roses in the studio in Los Angeles. They sounded really great and powerful. We played at a full volume, it must have been the loudest I ever played!" (Stevie Salas official website, 11/26/99)

"Stevie jammed with the new Guns N' Roses line-up at a recording studio in Los Angeles. They played such classic songs as 'Welcome To the Jungle,' 'Its So Easy,' 'Sweet Child O' Mine,' 'Paradise City' and 'You Could Be Mine.' The jam session went on for about 5 hours and reportedly they really rocked!" (Stevie Salas official website, 12/06/99)

"I spent an evening jammin with a band that was called Guns N' Roses, five hours at 300db. It was loud!!! But it wasn't the real Guns. There can't be a Guns without Slash! Keith and Mick (Rolling Stones) Steven and Joe (Aerosmith), Axl and Slash... That's the way it is! But Axl's new music was taking chances and I have to respect that." (Stevie Salas, RockReunion, 09/00)

"When we jammed, they had each guy with a Pro Tool rig adding hours of little things... you know, bells and whistles and the concept was, at least to my understanding, that they would shift through hours of music to search for one section that perhaps would be a great part of a song then they would take that piece of music and start the process over?? i thought they were all mad..." (Stevie Salas, 09/02/04)


Also trying out was future Marilyn Manson member/Sulpher frontman, Rob Holliday.

"It's a long story that involves Nine Inch Nails - Robin Finck, myself and various other people I know. Billy Howerdel from A Perfect Circle was working on it, Sean Beavan was working on it - all these people came and went. I ended up being asked over, yes it's true. It was a strange situation." (Rob Holliday, Vagabond Hearts, 2004)

''Axl had been a fan of Curve and liked the Sulpher stuff he heard, so he invited me over to LA to lay a bunch of guitar parts down. He has had a whole load of guitarists involved from Dave Navarro to Brian May, so I don't know if any of my parts have survived.'' (Rob Holliday, Metal Hammer, 12/01)

"I'm not sure what Axl is doing right now but when I was there, he had around 40 songs... I'm not sure this record will ever see the light of day." (Rob Holliday, Vagabond Hearts, 2004)

"But if you want tales of megalomania, you'll have to go somewhere else. 'Axl was really cool, genuinely a nice guy, very focused on what he wants,' says Rob." (Metal Hammer, 12/01)


One other guitarist was also considered.

"I first got a call [from GNR in 1999]... This was before I knew Tommy [Stinson]... one of my best friends, and he has been for a while. We've done loads of recording sessions together." (Richard Fortus, Times Union, 11/21/02)

"I was scheduled to come out and audition. They called and said, 'Yeah, we want to fly you out this week.' I was going to be there anyway doing sessions, so I could do it at that time. They said, 'Perfect.' I didn’t hear back from them, so I just figured, 'Well, it must not be happening.'" (Richard Fortus, Ultimate Guitar, 11/26/08)

"Before that audition happened, Axl saw Buckethead play, and he decided to go with him instead." (Richard Fortus, Times Union, 11/21/02)

#129 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 868 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:

It's interesting to think that you could stick the 90s demo versions of IRS and TWAT together with Prostitute and This I Love, bulk it out with the better tracks from It's Five O'Clock Somewhere and you'd basically have the 96 GNR album...

And it's not even a stretch.

Snakepit is essentially a collection of Slash's GNR songs. Strip the orchestral arrangements from Prostitute and you'll get a very bare-bones ballad in the four-minute margin, albeit with an aggressive rhythm section.

In that sense, the 96 album would've been a definite step down from the produced-to-death UYI's. However, almost anything would've been viewed that way at the time. A more heartfelt, mature version of AFD in some ways. Had the band stuck together, it would've no doubt been viewed as a stop-gap release.

Pearl Jam was falling with No Code, while Marilyn Manson's Antichrist Superstar and Korn's Life is Peachy would lay the groundwork for the rest of the decade as far as nu-metal would be viewed - and there's a door I doubt GNR would've ever dared to open. GNR, if coming out with an album in '97, might've found some audiences from the alternative scene, the Radiohead/Faith No More crowds. Most of their former peers had sufficed to release collections, so it was generally going to be an uphill battle no matter what.

The ways the recording process in '96 has been described by Slash, Ax and others, Ax's leaning towards alternative metal seems to fit the bell. He did want to change the direction of the band; his seemingly obvious choice would've therefore been to introduce the bluesy hard rock sound of GNR into alternative; the hardest, loudest straight-up guitar album they could've made. That would've carved GNR a whole new niche in the genre and they might've survived in some form, even though world domination would've hopelessly fallen beyond the reach.

Some people would've obviously picked the band on deserting their roots and going with the flow, others would've noted how they'd be trying so hard to metamorphose into something new that it's not enjoyable anymore. Of course, some would've liked it, but I doubt that in the long run it would've been considered much more than one of those albums established acts push out every now and then.

Basically, it would've been about justifying their existence during the interim.

#130 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 868 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

James was right on Tobias and Fortus. I always thought Tobias would get writing credits.

Paul and Dizzy recorded the earliest jams of the new era, starting from '96 with seven songs that were then worked on by Slash, Duff, Matt, Dizzy, Paul and Ax.

Stuff like This I Love, Prostitute and Oklahoma can actually date back to the 'lost' GNR album from fall '96. 

madagas wrote:

Wonder why Axl didn't put his pic in there?

Maybe Paul didn't want to...?

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