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#121 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 833 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Acquiesce, I don't remember anything about a book of nude boys. Not saying its false, just don't remember it. You read that in a book or see it in a documentary? Only thing I know of regarding anything of that nature is the pic of Culkin in his underwear, and innocent or jerk off material for him, cannot be classified as child porn.

It was mentioned in his trial.

According to District Attorney Tom Sneddon, "The idea that there are not any photos or pictures or anything is pure poppycock. In the search, Jackson said, they didn't find anything unless it was 'something somebody sent me.' The statement there were no books or photos of nude children on his premises is incorrect. That is not truthful."

Investigation sources say police found a lewd, commercially published hardcover book of black-and-white photos of nude boys aged about 7 to 12 "at play," and according to one, that book "is often found in the home of pedophiles." There was also a picture of a nude little boy, scantily draped with a sheet, found in Jackson's bedroom.

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Mesereau inadvertently opened a door for Zonen by asking Robson, "If you had known Michael Jackson, as a grown man, was reading Playboy, Hustler, Penthouse, magazines like that, showing naked women, would that have concerned you?" Robson said no, but it would depend on the kind of pornographic material. Zonen seized the opportunity. He strode over to the table where the evidence was kept and pulled out a large photo book called Boys Will Be Boys. Over and over he asked Robson to pick a page and describe what he saw—naked boys of 10, 11, or 12 with their genitalia prominently displayed. Then Zonen produced a second book, "of photographs of two men engaged in sex acts with one another." He asked, "And, in fact, the sex acts are all acts of either masturbation, oral sex, or sodomy; is that right?" Robson said yes. "Would you be concerned about a person who possesses that book crawling into bed with a 10-year-old boy?" Robson said, "Yes, I guess so." And so on. Every time Mesereau tried to blunt the previous testimony, Zonen would get up and grab another book—seven in all.

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#122 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 833 weeks ago

That's the biggest copout ever. I guess I shouldn't consider OJ Simpson a murderer either. Not guilty does not equal innocence. Even two of the jurors spoke out and said they thought he was guilty.

Seriously, the fact that anyone even considers his innocence shows how fucked up society is general when it comes to celebrities. If he was some random middle aged man that liked to target boys in a specific age range to sleep in his bed no one would ever buy the nonsense that he thinks he is Peter Pan. Heck no one would be stupid enough to let their child sleep with him for fuck's sake, but because he's a celebrity people can bury their head in the sand.

The guy targeted a specific age range of young boys to sleep in his bed. He had a really weird creepy relationship with the kid in 93 where he'd sleep in that kid's bed every single night and leave in the morning when he went to school, and was back at that kid's house in the evening. Law enforcement found books of nude boys that are commonly found in pedophiles homes. They found a photo of a nude boy. He had alarms around his bed room to alarm him any time approaced his room. One accuser was able to accurately describe his genitals and he *immediately* settled once that came out. His lawyer tried to delay the civil trial in 93 because he said MJ would be forced to take the 5th.  He also paid off other people. He basically hired a thug to intimidate the original accuser any potential witnesses.

These aren't the actions of an innocent man and he is very clearly a pedophile with his obsession with boys 10-13 but he gets away with it because no one wants to believe a celebrity could do such a thing. If he was an average man he would have been locked up long ago. No one would buy that he's some fragile peter pan who is uber creepy yet harmless. It's really an insult to everyone's intelligence that they'd even float such a bogus defense but too many sheep who are blinded by fame and money fall for it. It's a sad commentary on our society.

#123 Re: The Sunset Strip » Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion » 833 weeks ago

I can't be arsed to read this whole thread at the moment, but I feel like I am living in the twilight zone that people are celebrating him as if he was someone that should be worshipped.

It's undeniable that he was a talented musician, but the man was a pedophile and it completely baffles me that people actually believe he was just some harmless weirdo or are willing to overlook it because he was once a talented musician.

Part of me wants to get rid of my TV completely because I can't stand this celebrity obsessed society that we've become to the point where people completely overlook the obvious because it involves someone famous. It's just sad and pathetic.

I'm glad the fucker is gone and I can't wait until he fades into the background where he rightfully belongs. I'm really disappointed in humanity though.

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#126 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did Axl consider to be "Big Guns" » 837 weeks ago

Yeah, I don't think it was a lie. Plans constantly change in Axl's world. That's what happens when you're insecure and indecisive.

#127 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 837 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

The gossip is Axl's fired and re-hired Azoff a few times in the last few months, full stop. Thats all they had to say.

Bringing up manic depression and insinuating it has something to do with this rumour is just ignorance about the condition, and using it as a way to knock Axl.
Exactly in the way he mentioned in the chats:

"In my world all bi polar means is that someone can try to take cheap uneducated shots..."

Its a gossip column, I highly doubt Azoff is the kind of guy to put up with being hired and fired all those times. Once mabye, but after the 2nd time he strikes me as the kind of person who would just say, "ok enough of this shit, whats it going to be?"

If Axl actually has some sort of mental problem (I'd wager a  kidney that he does) then it's quite possible Azoff realizes his behavior is a symptom of that illness and is patient with him. I'd bet this happens more often than we realize with celebs. They are often off in their own little worlds.

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