Ali wrote:

dave-gnfnr wrote:

Vocal range has NOTHING to do with singing at all.
It does not matter how good your range IS or WAS, you can have someone with little vocal range sound BETTER than someone that has a better vocal range.

Just take eddie vedder and axl tonight.
Axl has a much bigger vocal range yet eddie vedder sounded better.

Axl has  a better vocal range than Mark Foster from Foster the people but Mark blows Axl out of the water when it comes to singing.

You have no clue what you're saying when you say range has nothing to do with singing.

Ali

You have no clue, Adele is a way better singer than axl, and Axls range is way more than hers (Axl is like what 4 maybe 5 vs Adele being a 3).  Adele is one of the best singers in the world and doesnt have the range of Axl.

You have no clue.

monkeychow wrote:

RussTCB wrote:

a bunch of people on the internet hoping and wishing for failure??

Not sure if that's the case Russ, I think it just seems like that.

I think most of the negative posters would really love Axl to come out and fucking lay out their ears like he used to do in 2006, and 9 and of course back in the hey day as well.

I guess some people are negative for the hell of it...but notice how when there's a new song leak or something of that nature for a while everyone gets excited and happy.

It's because most people WANT gnr to be good...and they want new music...but we don't get new music...for a reason that's never been explained other than in a "fuck us stop asking for it" way...and so we have to make do with live versions of old songs...so then when something about the old song sounds off....it's extra upsetting....but I dont think these people want negativity...I think they're just depressed at how things turn out.

Exactly, if a killer leak came out, we would be praising it.
The problem is there are way more lows than highs with Gnr. And some people like Russ are more willing to be less negative about the lows than others.

war wrote:

look at slash
....

yet everybody is praising the band at the slash show and

bitching about axl at the new guns show

I see what you mean. I think that comes down to two factors though.

1. Slash doesn't bill the show as GNR, and even though he plays GNR, there's usually a lot of attention on his other catalogue and new works.

2. Slash is the major draw for a Slash show - and he's playing up to standard.

I think the problem with GNR is that most people consider Axl the only true GNR member there...so then when Axl isn't singing well....what are you getting?

I don't mean to be disrespectful to the band saying these things, I really love bumble and respect his playing, I'm just saying at the end of the day stuff like Jungle is an axl/slash song, just like Real is a bumble song. So it becomes sort of irrelevant what anyone else does.

So...

If slash does jungle well and myles fucks it up it's ok - cos the GNR guy did well.

If Axl sings Nighttrain well and Robin stuffs up the solo it's ok to me cos the GNR guy did well.

If Ron played Real with me covering the vocals and I fucked it up - it would be ok to me cos Ron played his song well.

When you get into problems would be if Axl is the one who is bad in a GNR show, or if Slash was the one who is bad in a slash show, or in an impossible hypothetical - if Ron stuffed up Real and I nailed the vocals....because in those situations the audience are really not getting what was billed to them.