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#121 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 892 weeks ago
You've got mail James!
#122 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 892 weeks ago
Boy this is truely the great part of this whole process...
Brainless Axl salad tossers like yourself will die out.
RIP
This is not an Axl salad tosser at all--I don't see that--he is stating the truth--the album is out, there were no other promises. If there are additional fireworks, all the better, enjoy them. I think that is what this person is getting at. I assume the poster has been reading the countless blind worship threads on HTGTH, and the nut-wad panic attacks on mygnr, and came to the right place to express their opinion. Welcome to the best GNR board on the web pumpkin!
#123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
Bright Eyes 2005 wrote:Looks like Andy Gould is now out--he was basically the manager for frontline, which Azoff heads along with Ticketmaster. Axl will never leave Azoff. It would not be so sad, if this cycle were not so predictable. The only manager to ever stay around is whatshername...
whats this all about? Gould is gone?
when did this happen?
I should clarify my statement, I read on an industry board, that Gould was laying in the sand at the bottom of the hour glass. Interpret that how you want.
#124 Guns N' Roses » Best Buy exclusive dramatically limited 1st week sales! » 892 weeks ago
- Bright Eyes 2005
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After reading some industry boards, and discussing with someone in radio and the business side of record distribution, I came away with a new perspective on the whole 1st week deal:
--GNR's demographic is not well served by the Best Buy deal--many are in more rural areas of the Midwest and South with very limited access to Best Buy.
--Common GNR fans, those who would not search them out on the internet, and do not listen to modern rock radio, would have likely purchased this on impulse if they would have seen this at Wal Mart, Target, local record store, etc. (noted in detail on Velvet Rope),
--Best Buy is an electronics store, which does not have a very diverse demographic of people--in other words, it only reached a small portion of those who would be likely to buy the record.
--Best Buy dramatically limited promotion--once it was in their court, it was their responsibility to market. They virtually reached no one who did not already know about this.
#125 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
His egotistical BS was only overlooked because Slash, Izzy, and Duff were such cool, laid back, down to earth guy's. Alone, Axl's enormous ego, and cheese-ball over the top antics are too much. He's as talented as they get, but he needs the balance of the other guy's to be accepted by the public. He got himself into this hole, he is the only one who can get out of it. At this point, I don't think the replacements want anything to do with this trainwreck, and are hoping for him to get his head on straight. They are sick and tired I am sure of having an illiterate housekeeper tell them how to rock.
#126 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
UMG (they have abandoned this) and Best Buy are locked in a blame game and possible legal fist fight, while Axl's suing Dr. Pepper, re-mastering an album already released, firing Andy Gould for whatever reason, and Better landed with no fanfare at all today--didn't hear it on any rock stations i listened to, not even mentioned.
I'm almost happy--I like Bucket working with Bootsy and Laswell, and Axl working with Izzy better. Let the funeral procession begin, and then let the flowers begin to grow again, sprouting out above the shallow grave.
#127 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 892 weeks ago
Axl, if he ever wants to be taken seriously again, has one option: reunion. He always has run from what he does best, blues based, hard rock. Izzy alone probably has 30 or 40 songs held back from him to look over, and Slash and Duff have 12-15 songs they wrote with Izzy back in 2003, that were going to be the VR album before shelving them when Weiland entered the mix. Axl and Dizzy have songs as well. They have loads of material ready, they just need to figure it out.
#128 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
Well, one week in, and the wheels are coming off the train at a record pace. This trainwreck, I have to admit, is highly entertaining. Looks like Andy Gould is now out--he was basically the manager for frontline, which Azoff heads along with Ticketmaster. Axl will never leave Azoff. It would not be so sad, if this cycle were not so predictable. The only manager to ever stay around is whatshername...
BTW, clean up the posts including monikers, or it will kill this source. People at UMG must be pissed to the gill, as they are being more forthright in a public forum than ever before. One of those quoted is the ermmm, way at the top of umg if you catch my drift.
#129 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
He may have to give this one away free on his website, as no one in hell is going to partner with him on a product. Then Best Buy will probably sue him for breach of their exclusive distribution contract, unless, that is only in place for certain period of time. BTW, GNR are still under contract with UMG (I am quite sure Azoff renegotiated this contract--apparently with another advance).
Yes, Axl runs the show, in a sense. I think most are underestimating though the savvy manipulation of him. Zutat was making progress, about to break through the parasitic malaise, and then the manipulator set him up. I am sure their are countless other Shakesperian tales of deceit to ensure the parasites still have their host. Sad state of affairs. I really feel sorry for guy in a way. Anyone want to bet who Slash was referring to in 1995 when he wrote Beggars and Hangers on?
#130 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reason Axl Rose not promoting album? » 892 weeks ago
Agreed--but, it goes with the territory. I mean, one has to take it with a grain of salt, once one is a star, they know they are an object on the message boards, more than a human. Everyone here is here because they dig Axl and GNR, and is really just pontificating for entertainment--if Axl was here, and made it clear that he was visiting, people would immediately cut the crap, and treat him withrespect. Maybe a little down to earth communication would eliminate some of the negative speculation.
Until then, I am truly amused and scratching my head at what seems, from the outside looking in, odd, obsessive behavior. I guess, once they sold 1.5 million albums to Best Buy, though, they could care less how it was marketing. UMG recouped their losses in one big swoop.
