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#131 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 263 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

"No scientific proof that masks work" says the idiots online. Next time you have a surgery, make sure you demand the physicians don't wash their hands or wear masks either.

Lol.  Strawman much?

You're not using that term correctly. Not really surprising though.

AtariLegend wrote:

...but her emails?

You know, I thought you were just joking around, but I saw they were bringing it up again the other day. Unbelievable.

#132 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 263 weeks ago

"No scientific proof that masks work" says the idiots online. Next time you have a surgery, make sure you demand the physicians don't wash their hands or wear masks either.

#133 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 263 weeks ago

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

That Jonathan Swan interview with Trump. Holy shit I thought it was a comedy sketch, seriously.

It was like watching an interview with Michael Scott.

#134 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

Brutal. These guys can teach Dems a thing or two about ads.

#135 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

Other conservatives who are not pleased with Trump making this suggestion. They know a fascist when they see one.

#136 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

Anybody surprised Trump wants to delay the election?

page 1397 BigBri broke it to us. And, nope.  Buzzsaw however claimed it was 'clickbait' tho, lol


http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.p … 65#p329265



According to co-founder of the Federalist Society it's an impeachable offense.





Co-founder of influential conservative group: Trump's tweet floating election delay is grounds for impeachment

The co-founder of the conservative Federalist Society said Thursday in a blistering New York Times op-ed that President Donald Trump's tweet musing about a delay to November's presidential election is grounds for impeachment.

Steven Calabresi, a Northwestern University law professor who has offered broad defenses of the President in recent years, wrote, "I am frankly appalled by the president's recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats' assertion that President Trump is a fascist."

"But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president's immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate," he said.

It's a significant break from the co-founder of one of the most influential groups in Republican politics. The Federalist Society has emerged as a leading conservative and libertarian voice in recent years, urging a limited role for judges in society's problems.

The group has also worked closely with Republican administrations to influence the selection of judges. Its leaders advised the George W. Bush administration on appointments and, for Trump, have become an even closer partner in screening candidates for the bench.

The scathing assessment comes hours after Trump explicitly floated delaying November's election in a tweet claiming without evidence that the contest will be flawed.

"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA," he wrote. "Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
Trump has no authority to delay an election, and the Constitution gives Congress the power to set the date for voting. Lawmakers from both parties said almost immediately that there was no likelihood the election would be delayed.

"President Trump needs to be told by every Republican in Congress that he cannot postpone the federal election," Calabresi wrote. "Doing so would be illegal, unconstitutional and without precedent in American history. Anyone who says otherwise should never be elected to Congress again."

The op-ed, paired with an array of meaningful pushback on Trump from congressional Republicans on Thursday, offers a rare look at the limits on loyalty to the President within the GOP when it comes to defending his more extreme political urges.
Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and Trump ally, told CNN when asked about the President's call to delay the election: "I don't think that's a particularly good idea."

And Majority Whip Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, a member of Republican leadership, told CNN that there will be an election in November despite the President's tweet.

"I think that's probably a statement that gets some press attention, but I doubt it gets any serious traction," Thune said. "I think we've had elections every November since about 1788, and I expect that will be the case again this year."

Even with scores of Republicans openly challenging Trump's tweet, Calabresi's op-ed stand outs as a striking defection given his long history in the GOP. While he's offered some criticism of the President in the past, Calabresi has gained significant notoriety in recent years for his forceful repudiations of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation as well as Trump's impeachment over his conduct with Ukraine.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics … index.html

#137 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

Anybody surprised Trump wants to delay the election?

#138 Re: The Garden » Covid 19 » 264 weeks ago

As I was saying about Cain a few posts back....and here we are. I'd say RIP, but he's an asshole who spread misinformation about a highly contagious and deadly virus to hundreds of thousands. He could have done the right thing, but he chose not to. His actions resulted in not only his death, but probably 1000s more.

The co-founder of the conservative student group Turning Point, Bill Montgomery, who mocked masks etc and called this a hoax has also died of covid-19 yesterday. Charlie Kirk the current head of this organization has been steadfast in his denial of science and the effectiveness of masks.

We're watching cult members die for their leader, denying it all until their last breaths. It's unbelievable actually.

#139 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I don't care that he's a die hard lefty.  That's great...I have tons of friends that are.

I bet you don't talk to them like you do here. Guarantee it.

You're right.  Want to know why?

Not really...Karen.


PaSnow wrote:

When you keep whining and saying 'Why isn't he banned yet?  I've reported him a dozen times!'  Well yeah, but your 'reports' suck and are baseless. Mods are probably getting annoyed at you. Let it go, this forums on life support anyway but your 'reports', this one at least, is worthless.

There's what? 6 regular posters on this thread? Buzz and the propaganda minister want half 'em gone. They desire an echo chamber when they're not yelling at the clouds. They bully, threaten and act like victims simultaneously in hopes of creating a safe space.

#140 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Don't forget to Google 'umbrella man minneapolis'?!  The antifa dressed guy breaking Autozone windows in the first couple nights that they caught & turns out he's a trumptard.

That's right.

And of course nobody is claiming they aren't rioters, there are. But the point is that we have an authoritarian president who has unleashed his thugs to physically assault and kidnap American citizens exercising their First Amendment rights. He then calls them violent protesters while waving around his bible for a photo op. 

PaSnow wrote:

Did Obama ever specifically quote a conspiracy tho?   Did a conspiracy theory ever reach the level of Obama's birth certificate where millions of crazy 'pubs were thinking he was born in Kenya??

trump is directly quoting this rhetoric. Some shit with the Muslims, Mexicans, now the Blacks etc.

Russia & North Korea tho, oh no, don't be talking bad about them. lol.  I wonder why???   Hmmmmmmmm


This is whataboutism at its worst.

There is never any responsibility taken, only the pivot, always the pivot. It's taken right out of the Cold War propaganda handbook. This is what allows fascists to rise to power and that's exactly where we are today. A fascist president propped up and defended by the likes of Flagg and pooh pooh'd by people like ID.

The weakness of these men and those like them. The apathy. The excuses. The nihilism. The unadulterated cowardice in the face of injustice. The outright lies and regurgitation of propaganda. That's what's literally killing our democracy and its citizens as Rome burns.

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