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#131 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Am I supposed to carbon date every fucking clip that shows up in my inbox??

No, but as far as I know that clip has not *exactly* been around for years....

As far as I know.


'Closing In On You' was mentioned a few pages back.  The above discussion is all about 'Zodiac'.


but I have a feeling its just as relevant as some of these clips.

MSL seems to be talking about the Spanish hoarders - from whom this clip came - being real.  All that they told me was lies I couldn't see, if I am reading his post right.:haha:  If that's so: maybe he could clarify where the whole 'game' these guys are supposedly playing stands on 'Zodiac'.

If it's fake, he has to concede he is talking to people who have unleashed fake audio, seeing as he *seems* to believe these people are real and worthy of time....

#132 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

I thought you thought the peeps involved in this are full of shit?

I do - and I want to know what song it is; Bucket or not.:haha:


James Lofton wrote:

That clip has circulated for years.

Why didn't you mention earlier it had been circulated for years?  As far as I knew, that clip first appeared when the 'Thyme' stuff went down (and when I was talking to the Spanish guy who claimed part responsibility - as well as it being 'legit').

MSL: if you really believe these guys are legit please clear this 'Zodiac' thing up.  Just that one request.:)

#133 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Paul Gilbert, Satriani, probably Vai are capable of it.

It sounds even less like any of them IMHO.

I don't think it sounds cold either.  I think it sounds very Bucket.  But hey: you've heard more Buckethead than me, so you may well be right.:buckethead:

Thanks for chipping in.

#134 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

Communist China wrote:

Don't be so proud Arcade, betting things won't leak is quite the easy bet. Even if you're wrong, which only happens 2% of the time, everyone's too excited to call you on it.

*Sigh*

Once again: I'm betting on this because I have proof - I dealt with the people before, and they were all mouth and no leaks.:)  I have proven this conclusively, IMO.

I will wait for MSL (and whoever else) though....  I'm not a gloater; I'm just offering my two cents.:)

#135 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Could be Bumble, I don't know.

It's too technical for him IMHO, as I said earlier.

And you are the first BH fan to say it hasn't got BH's mark all over it....  Who else plays *quite* like that?

bigbri wrote:

By stuff described to me, I mean stuff from Bucket I haven't heard before. So, even if it's Bucket stuff I haven't heard, it doesn't sound like anything I've heard other people talk about from Bucket.

OK, cheers.:)


Ask your friend if you want.  It might help.:)


Dadud wrote:

Hey, its nearly been 24 hours. wheres the new OMG leak?

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Looks like I am going to be proved right.:)

Charlatans do not produce audio.

#136 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Arcade Roses wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Hoarders have small dicks and need to feel dominant. I know more about unheard BH/GNR stuff than any of these fake assholes.

Wait, maybe you can tell me what Buckethead song this is then (seeing as it sounds pretty damn good...):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q15RMTW5

Cheers bigbri.http://samizdata.net/~pdeh/smiley_cheers.gif

Edit: Sorry to keep doing this to you.  You are our resident 'Bucketbot'....:haha: 22 3 bucket

Not sure if you guys have finished your discussion on this, but it doesn't sound like Bucket to me and it doesn't sound like stuff I've had described to me.

I just tried to PM you the link: how did you read my mind?:haha:

It's not Bucket?  What is it then?  Someone said it might be Bumble?  What 'stuff' was described to you?  By us you mean?

#137 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:
Communist China wrote:

MSL, I just don't see why the whole forum needs to get dragged into it.

lol, i didn't start the thread. wink

people read & respond cuz they're interested. i'm sure a lot of it is confusing & frustrating though. i'll say no more. way too much has already been revealed here and it's a slippery slope. so goodbye to all. i think i will play NFL blitz 2000 with the fellows.

MSL, I respect that, but could you please, privately send us proof that/why you believe these guys are authentic.

Likewise, could you also just clear up the 'Zodiac' situation for us.  You can do this privately or publicly here - whichever you see fit.  Thanks for your time.


I agree... blame the thread starter.:flame: 4 3 14

#138 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

arcade, you're thinking too much here. the point is not who is right and who is wrong . . . the point is that who is right and who is wrong is not always the point of the exercise . . .

a lot of times the people who have stuff are the ones that swear they have nothing . . . sometimes you test the ones that swear they have nothing by seeing if they'll call you on your bullshit. if you'd said earlier that his lyrics were wrong, he'd know you had the song.

a lot of it is unnecessary bullshit, but for the hoarders, it's foreplay . . .

Well, having shared his info with some senior members of the community, we came to a *loose* consensus that they had nothing (because only I partially disagreed and still talk to the guy/s from time to time... well, talked) - and any further discussions would only be a waste of time.

If you can claim to get something from this, well... you are on a higher plane than the rest of us.  It would be like Gary Moore joining a new indie band where the members all make the same guitar sounds, if you see what I mean.  (And I think that's largely because we all here go on the assumption that 'leakers don't play games', which is a fair and rational starting point.)  I still have trouble believing there is something to this....

Bottom line (before I shut up, LOL): If you believe these guys who several top 'investigators' of this kind of thing all proclaimed were BS, (why) do you still only have their WORD to go on that a new 'OMG' is out there?  Unless you/I was to have heard such a thing at least down the phone/a 10 second indisputable clip, I would never go public with such information.  (Private yes, public no.)

Answer me that.  That's why I called out this charlatan when I did - and don't regret it either.  But if you say this because you have new information, well, send it to me, JL, strat, downliner and others so we can see and judge for ourselves.

Just my two cents.

Peace and out.:peace:

#139 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

and as much as i respect arcade roses' efforts, he must realize this is a complicated game of cat and mouse and people like him are often used to ensure that misinformation makes its way on to the boards . . .

If that is true... this is like a game of chess with 4 sides!

I was given fake lyrics to 'If The World' (before it was posted) and other songs so I could be 'deceived'?  These people have fooled more than just me... they have fooled some *very* high up and 'respected' people on these boards and I know that definitively.

By the way... dare I say it... I *did* manage to get the clip off them (well, they sent it to me unsolicited)... which, you having said that, reminds me.:nervous:

#140 Re: Guns N' Roses » More leaks soon? » 882 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:
downliner wrote:

Can you explain who is trading with who, and what song they are apparently trading for? In less than 20 words tongue

I'm completely lost and can't understand anything being posted hmm

I am completely lost as well.  I'm not really understanding much of this.

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I'm kinda busy and don't want this thread to shoot up to 20 pages when I'm gone so:

MSL told me he was talking to some guys in Mexico who claim to have '99 demos.  What he told me - +what this guy here 'Spanish hoarder' (how stupidly fake and obvious) has been harping on about (a new 'OMG', etc.) - made me realise it was some people who I had by chance encountered earlier in the year who sent around fake clips of 'Zodiac', fake info, etc..  So I warned MSL about this - saved his ship from hitting an iceberg.

MSL confirmed this to me last night and so he *may* have '*finished*' with them now....

Some guys claim that clip (which came from these people MSL is talking to) they have not heard before though; hence the above conversation.

Downliner - I've sent you my proof in PMs (CD.com).:)

These people have nothing (IMHO).

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