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#131 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
If you did remove every gun, there would be less murders, but the bad guys would still get them... It's math. Neither of the past two events would have been stopped with any of the ideas out there. We do have a culture problem in the US. We have raised a generation of moody pussies that are hooked on aderol and anti depressants. A society that is into World of Warcraft, Doom, etc that has become numb to death. Now we got a bunch of crazy fucks that want to out do each other with every killing. These will continue to happen. They will happen because its very easy to happen. I can go kill a lot f people right now with my Benneli shotgun and my 22 rifle. Wouldn't be hard. It's too easy. Maybe we need more church or some shit.
Oh, so you're just dumber than the rest of us then.
The rest of the western civilization got WoW and Doom as well. Oh, and pills too. We even have moody pussies hooked on anti depressants. But even so, our stats combined - Canada, Australia, Germany, Scandinavia and so on - aren't even close to yours in gun violence. Why?
So, let's conclude that it's not the guns. You're simply that much fucking dumber than us.
That's what you're all trying to tell me, Bono and monkey right?
#132 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
It's not arrogance, it's fact. None of this is my opinion. I don't own a gun. I don't want to own a gun. That doesn't blind me to the reality of the situation.
Oh, it's arrogance.
That and complete surrender to a hopeless situation.
This is why I'm glad I live in the US and would never consider living anywhere else.
Arrogance right there.
#133 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
This is why I'm glad I live in the US and would never consider living anywhere else. You guys have a completely warped view of what the reality is in this country.
You don't get it at all or we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Bono mentioned arrogance?
And what did you say about Finland again? Oh wait, they reacted and went for more control, not arming their teachers.
#134 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
DCK wrote:Aussie wrote:I see those volunteer firefighters were shot at and 2 killed. I suppose the NRA will come out with their solution being that they now need to arm the firefighters and volunteers.
Obviously. Because firefighters and teachers are 'normal people' which means no one of them will ever 'snap' and shoot anyone.
This is a list of school shootings in the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sc … ted_States
And for the rest of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting
Speaks volumes doesn't it?
And, the black day of Europe, the Dunblane massacre in 1996
"Dumb" British politicians decided to do something about it:In response to this public debate, the then-current Conservative government introduced a ban on all cartridge ammunition handguns with the exception of .22 calibre single-shot weapons in England, Scotland and Wales. Following the 1997 General Election, the Labour government of Tony Blair introduced the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997, banning the remaining .22 cartridge handguns in England, Scotland and Wales, and leaving only muzzle-loading and historic handguns legal, as well as certain sporting handguns (e.g. "Long-Arms") that fall outside the Home Office Definition of a "Handgun" due to their dimensions. The ban does not affect Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, or the Channel Islands.
No school shootings have happened since then in the UK. Since Columbine in 98, the list goes on and on.
Accidents not counted, 561 children have been killed by guns between 2006 and 2010.
The weapon of choice outside the US isn't the gun, but there are still incidents at schools. And when they do happen, they are massive (see the Finland shooting or wherever that was) because nobody can do a damn thing TO STOP THE CRAZY PERSON that is killing people.
It's the person, not the gun. I'm not sure how many times this has to be repeated before you guys get it.
Finland had the most leanient gun laws in Scandinavia, and perhaps Europe. They have way more guns per household than the rest of us. Go figure they had a few shootings. If they had any fucking common sense, and I think they do, they have been changing their laws since then. I would be surprised if they did not. It's only in YOUR country you adopt that dumb attitude of what Bono says; "giving up, can't beat them, join them". A complete laughing stock to the rest of us, even Canadians living the closest to you.
Usually, when I write, I tend to outsiders to correct my work. I can't do it myself. I write myself blind on my own mistakes and idiotic ideas. So I go to outsiders. Not my wife, not my parents, not my family. Outsiders with no real connection to me. They see the obvious faults, and correct them. If you see what I'm trying to say.
Even gun-loving Finland — with 45 firearms for every 100 people — tightened its laws after two school shootings in 2007 and 2008, raising the minimum age for firearms ownership and giving police greater powers to make background checks on individuals applying for a gun license.
We get it. There are so many guns in circulation. WE GET IT. Jesus, it's like trying to debate with five year olds. Don't you think we know you have a shit load of guns? Finland got shit load of guns too, and they decided to do something about it. Britain decided to do something about it. You don't. You're the only people in the world, except Somalia maybe, that think guns are the solution to a gun problem. It's like fighting fire with fire.
It's the person, not the gun. I'm not sure how many times this has to be repeated before you guys get it.
Oh yeah, we all get it. We get that it's the dumbest argument ever put out. It's shit we laugh about. I mean the Canadians must laught the loudest, as you're basically saying Americans are dumber than them. Dumber and for some reason have a considerable amount of more nutjobs. Perhaps it truly is, as one Texan once said to me "it's something in the water".
#135 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
I see those volunteer firefighters were shot at and 2 killed. I suppose the NRA will come out with their solution being that they now need to arm the firefighters and volunteers.
Obviously. Because firefighters and teachers are 'normal people' which means no one of them will ever 'snap' and shoot anyone.
This is a list of school shootings in the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sc … ted_States
And for the rest of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting
Speaks volumes doesn't it?
And, the black day of Europe, the Dunblane massacre in 1996
"Dumb" British politicians decided to do something about it:
In response to this public debate, the then-current Conservative government introduced a ban on all cartridge ammunition handguns with the exception of .22 calibre single-shot weapons in England, Scotland and Wales. Following the 1997 General Election, the Labour government of Tony Blair introduced the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997, banning the remaining .22 cartridge handguns in England, Scotland and Wales, and leaving only muzzle-loading and historic handguns legal, as well as certain sporting handguns (e.g. "Long-Arms") that fall outside the Home Office Definition of a "Handgun" due to their dimensions. The ban does not affect Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, or the Channel Islands.
No school shootings have happened since then in the UK. Since Columbine in 98, the list goes on and on.
Accidents not counted, 561 children have been killed by guns between 2006 and 2010.
#136 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 652 weeks ago
My house is on fire!
Don't worry, let's just add some flames to it!
And to continue.
Americans are shit scared of their own government.
European governments are shit scared of their people.
#137 Re: The Garden » Merry Christmas » 652 weeks ago
2013 starts now
#138 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 652 weeks ago
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#139 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » ADLER: Debut Album Details Revealed » 652 weeks ago
I am talking fist pumping rock. Obviously not if the world or twat level songs.
It works for quick masterbation so to speak.
But then when that's all done, there's very little left.
#140 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » ADLER: Debut Album Details Revealed » 652 weeks ago
Yes DCK, it rocks much harder than CD. Back from the Dead and the one that u hated are as good if not better than CD's best rocker CD. Other than Slither and Sucker Train, most of this is better than VR as well.
Well, as long as we're discussing individual taste, which simply cannot be measured I will say it again.
This doesn't give me anything near what CD gave me. At all.
Just a bunch of generic rock songs with no depth. No nothing. Perhaps better than the second VR album, not the first.