How is it unfounded conspiracy? Both slashfro and I said we suspect this is something shady. Like selling documents perhaps as an example. Based on the warrant, our suspicions don't seem far off.

18 USC 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defence information

Not sure why you're bringing up Clinton against me. I've always said that her email server was terrible. Under no circumstances should the Secretary of State have been authorising drone strikes using personal devices and a personal email.

But her getting off lightly for that doesn't make what Trump is under investigation of any more admissible and ok.

You say that this isn't comparable espionage... he's literally under investigation for violating the Espionage Act. Stop denying reality.

I said that...

Garland didn't say anything about nuclear. WaPo are the ones reporting that he has nuclear documents. If that's true and what that means, we'll see. All I'd say is you dismissed the idea it was anything like that as fanciful, after the last 24 hours I'd upgrade that likelihood by a lot.

Not really. Neither I or slashfro said that is what we believe, we think that happened. We're both just speculating. I'm not even speculating that is what happened, just commenting that what at first was an out there theory has becomes more plausible if recent reporting is true. And as I said in the first place - we'll see what the warrant says and what we learn over the coming days, weeks and months.

Anyway you keep ranting and talking up the danger of a violent uprising against this witchhunt and how the vegan soy boys will be crushed. Totally normal behavior... but of course you don't back the right wing crazies. You just equivocate and make excuses for them whilst condemning them and saying people on the left will have a rude awakening one day.

So Garland did know about it and personally signed off on it.

Him saying Biden only found out when the media reported about it. I’d be shocked if that’s true. That’s said DOJ are supposed to have independence, he strictly doesn’t need to know. Still doubt there’s some conspiracy involving the WH and Dem top brass to get Trump - as mentioned by me and others, this has killed all feel good news on passing the IRA and it makes no sense politically to do that.

Also, nuclear documents! Why the hell does he have those?! Got to upgrade slashsfro theory to unlikely but plausible.

We’ll know things definitively soon.

I’d be shocked if Garland bets his legacy on this high profile & high risk approach for just document retrieval though. That would be just be a stupid thing to do. So, makes me suspect there’s something else here.

The conspiracy theories that this is the White House, the Dem Establishment, the "Left" using the FBI to get at Trump for political gain doesn't make much sense. It's tinfoil hat stuff.

They just passed a landmark bill delivering a lot of things their voters and base wanted about 24 hours before this happened. Instead of flooding the airwaves making a song and dance about that the news is all this.

If they wanted political gain, they'd keep the focus on finally passing something, not this.

I don't think this does anything positive for the Dems ahead of the midterms so if there is a conspiracy, the motive doesn't fit.

It's also a lose/lose on the other front like Flagg says, it's another lightning rod to rile up that end of the GOP base into believing all sorts of shit.