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#141 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 114 weeks ago

I understand the new direction Axl wanted for GNR and Fink, BH etc fit perfectly to that nu-metal, industrial rock, electronic elements... Those songs such as Better, SR, HS, Absurd, OMG... All those songs with this people and a good final mix are great. But if you take them and allow Slash &. Duff change the structure, the solos... They are not great like before.
That's the problem with the leftovers in my opinion.

#142 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 114 weeks ago

carlossacanell wrote:

Anyway, i was listening to the old demos of HS, Absurd, Perhaps... And in my opinion they are really better than the final versions with Slash & Duff.
HS demo is much better, guitars, solos... With good mix It would be great. Finck solo on Perhaps plus the synths on them Bridge made the difference. And Absurd muuuuch better the older one. It's a shame.

And i think that's due to the musiciams. For those songs and that style the old line Up fits much better than Slash and Duff.

#143 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 114 weeks ago

Anyway, i was listening to the old demos of HS, Absurd, Perhaps... And in my opinion they are really better than the final versions with Slash & Duff.
HS demo is much better, guitars, solos... With good mix It would be great. Finck solo on Perhaps plus the synths on them Bridge made the difference. And Absurd muuuuch better the older one. It's a shame.

#144 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 114 weeks ago

Sky Dog wrote:
Trin9498 wrote:
Sky Dog wrote:

Only complaints I have are the ending shredding and yelping during the last 30 seconds of The General. The ending of Monsters is a bit hectic as well.

They don’t end like TWAT Coma Estranged NR etc….need to have that triumphant feel to make it in their catalog


Agree on the end of the General. It hurts my ears....literally hurts them

End like you begin and have the heavy shit in the middle!

Yes. They should rework the final parts in both songs

#145 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
carlossacanell wrote:

But if they are different and separated songs, are they going to release both? The vynil had a B side and was for the general. Then i understood the general was renamed as the general and Monsters and now two different songs...?

I think the real response at the moment is we don't know for certain.

They both have Beltrami work on from the tour intro (that we do know). That could mean they were once one song that has now been split into two, or it could also mean they were always two songs and that they just combined the strings to play as an intro to those gigs back in the day. Now obviously when asked years back what that intro was they said it was The General, they never mentioned Monsters so that would maybe suggest the song was later split after all.

The credits have it registered as The General And Monsters which would imply that they are one song though, but then the 7" is advertised as having The General as a B-Side with no mention of Monsters at all.

So who knows for sure? It's all conflicting hints.

I still would not be surprised if when this 7" appears it doesn't have Monsters on at all. Like I said it's not advertised.

I said this the other day but I think the things the fanbase thought they knew for sure (eg. Me and my Elvis being Soulmonster) actually aren't sure at all.

Agree. We'll see soon

#146 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

I think there is a lack of creativity by Axl at the moment. The powerful bullets were used un CD and now... I want to have ALL, leftovers included. But a new material álbum i hope It would be more creative and had better songs.
The combination of the three, add Izzy contributions and there we'll find the Big guns and the Magic

#147 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

Of course i'm not saying going down is WTTJ, but yes a 14 years style. A good song and radio friendly as well.
Absurd, TG, Monsters, State of Grace... I'm not saying are bad but i don't think they are close to the GNR catalogue.
I got more faith to a completely new Axl-Slash-Duff album composing new songs in terms of quality than these nu-gnr era leftovers.
Just my opinion

#149 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

But if they are different and separated songs, are they going to release both? The vynil had a B side and was for the general. Then i understood the general was renamed as the general and Monsters and now two different songs...?

#150 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 115 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Anyone who finds this version don't go thinking it's a another version because the song length's are different. Whoever put them together has renamed The General as Monsters and vice versa lol
https://i.postimg.cc/Hk7T9swC/Screenshot-79.png

Then they are going to release the two songs? The General+Monsters separated

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