Still amazes me to think that in 2004 Axl was talking about announcing a release date 'within a few months'.

The Chinese saga was a long one, and I fear we are entering, beyond reasonable doubt, another long phase without a new studio release. As someone rightly said above, Axl's hand was forced with the releases of both the illusions and Chinese.

Leaks are the ultimate force potentially that might precipitate a new release, but after the skwerl affair it seems almost unthinkable that someone would attempt a leak on such a large scale. I don't necessarily condone leaks, but if that is what brings forth a release from Guns, I'm sure many would be in favour. Perhaps an anonymous party out there might soon spill his beans.

Who knows, but I miss the thrill of new guns music.

Sorry guys, I hate to disagree but I really can't see how the word 'Zodiac' could be cut and pasted together from the multitracks (or elsewhere) whilst maintaining the level of multi layering so evident in much of Axl's studio tracks.

I admit my desire for new music may be clouding my judgment but I just got a good feeling about this one. I remember when nemus leaked Madagascar and evening thought it was BS. So the Soulmonster guy has a bit of a history.

Maybe he got lucky this time. He does, after all, have (or had) a copy of the Grenade version of Chinese.

I'm hearing "Zodiac took me, Zodiac took you".

Hey otto, very cool of you to post that stuff about what you heard. Any idea of the names of the tracks you partially heard?

I wonder if these tracks will ever leak? My gut tells me no. By the sounds of the other stuff otto heard these tracks have been in the hands of various people for quite some time now. No reason to think they're suddenly goin to leak now....unfortunately

Great thread, and some of these insider musings surely have to be correct.

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