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#151 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
and what news source is reporting 98% of Floridians are Covid positive??
Join earth & quit reading Brietbart.
Son, I don't even know what Britbart is. So there's that.
Why are you two so ignorant that you make all these assumptions when people do actual research on things? You dismiss anythign you don't understand, which is quite a bit. Try google and Florida's reported numbers. Here...I'll even do it for you:
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALe … ent=psy-ab
Now if USA Today is some right wing rag, then I guess you caught me. But then there's all the other sources...I guess they are all bullshit too, right?
You're so far down the believing everything you're told rabbit hole that you're a lost cause. Major uptick in "cases" but we're still waiting for all the deaths...apparently now it takes longer to die.
#152 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:misterID wrote:Biden is terrible. And so is Trump. This sucks.
It's amazing that the Dems found someone worse than Hillary. Not an easy task mind you...
Lol, ok pal.
We could have option A: Hillary running for re-election with an economy full steam ahead versus a competant Republican candidate
or option B: Trumptard with 13 million unemployed, a collapsed economy propped up by free paychecks with no chance of re-election thankfully, vs Biden.
Dont cry after shitting the bed you sleep in!
LOL - your Orange Man Bad blinders are in high gear.
The ONLY way the economy is in high gear with Hillary is if Covid doesn't happen...so are you saying that Covid wouldn't have happened with Hillary? Interesting take...you sound like one of those batshit crazy conspiracy people.
#153 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
Biden is terrible. And so is Trump. This sucks.
It's amazing that the Dems found someone worse than Hillary. Not an easy task mind you...
#154 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Here's my prediction. We're gonna have a plague this winter. The US will be banned by other countries from international travel. Then it slows down heavily again in the warmer months. 'Tracing' it mostly stops, as deaths don't occur as frequently in the warmer months, and it's not the news cycle every day. People also build up antibodies to it again in the summer. Winter 21/22 begins heavy killing off those more at-risk without antibodies , then after Oct/Nov it slows down, and not as bad Jan-Feb.
As winter 2022/2023 rolls around its numbers just become tallied in with the flu, thos its responsible for deaths are still measured and reported. It eventually just, becomes the flu.
Well..This is why people are criticizing the data now. They don't know which column means anything. When you look at those CDC reports...you don't know what you're reading.
I think if what you are predicting happens...it will feed more into the belief that this was all political.
The sham of the whole thing was looking at every single medical professional and scientist and saying, "i don't trust you." because Donald Trump told me not to.
People don't trust the data because the data has been and is being manipulated. Example after example has been given, yet you continue to just blame Trump.
Florida had what...9.4% positives reported as 98% (or something along those lines). You can't bullshit people into fear forever...eventually people start asking questions.
#155 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Wags comes in and approaches you in a completely nice way and look what you do to him. No history, no anything and you treat him like he's some mental midget that can't possibly have an independent thought. In other words, you treat him the same way you treat anyone that doesn't agree with you 100%. You had the perfect chance here to prove you're not a troll and not a douche and you failed miserably.
All good.
I don’t believe pushing my views on anyone. You can lead a horse to water...
I’ve changed my beliefs in life multiple times and dramatically so.
As many of us do...you can only make decisions based on what is known at the time. This is where people get into trouble stating absolutes early on...I tend to sit back and gather information. I'll share an opinion, sure - but I don't tend to hitch my trailer to something that shows up on CNN or Fox. The world would be a better place if more people did that.
#156 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Wagszilla wrote:"It really has no leaders"
Convicted terrorist Susan Rosenberg received a commuted sentence under the Clinton admin on his last day in office. She's on the board of BLM. George Soros gives millions to BLM. Look into Soros' comments and Davos and elsewhere for his thoughts and beliefs. It's something of reflexive thing on the left to say "pfft! Soros is a conspiracy" but then maybe talk about Rupert Murdoch in the same way. But yeah, please look into it.
I encourage you to look into the Russiagate thing more intimately. It was clear it was a witch hunt from the beginning as stated by many in the intelligence community and news media even. It was a big fishing expedition designed to lead breadcrumbs to manufactured "evidence".
If you think Stone did something wrong, fair enough, but consider the Rosenberg commuted sentence. If you're okay with literal domestic terrorism as in dynamic and submachine guns be my guest... (and also look into Obamas astronomically high number of commuted sentences and ICE and drone strike records).I've never aligned myself with the left or right, my voting record would show you that. I've always tried to follow the truth, do as much research as possible, and make sensible conclusions.
No, you have it all wrong. Unless you completely bury Trump and all Republicans regardless of the issue, you're the problem. Don't think. Don't look for information. Information is the enemy.
Amusing...
As has been stated repeatedly by many sources...Mueller didn't exonerate Trump of anything regarding collusion. Essentially, the report stated that there really are no laws against this for a president. If you look closer, there appears to be tons of rules against this for members of the Senate or the House.
Whats more alarming to me is that you wouldn't care either way...whether or not it was legal was not an important part of your thought process. You just don't care...
There has been a lot of stupid shit regarding Hillary that's been repeatedly debunked but that doesn't seem to matter on this message board.
What about Benghazi? Have we gotten to the bottom of that yet?
What's amusing is you're STILL trying to put words into my mouth. I've NEVER posted about Bengazi. Posted very little about Hillary other than sh was a terrible candidate. Never posted supporting Trump. But as I posted before, since I don't blast Trump and Republicans every time I post, I am a supporter/fan/whatever.
And the worse part is that you think it's because I don't care. It's not. It's because both sides do the same shit while people like you sit here and blast one side while completely ignoring all the shit your side does. So if you equate giving up on people like you as not caring, I guess you're right. I care; I just know you're never going to look at anything objectively.
Wags comes in and approaches you in a completely nice way and look what you do to him. No history, no anything and you treat him like he's some mental midget that can't possibly have an independent thought. In other words, you treat him the same way you treat anyone that doesn't agree with you 100%. You had the perfect chance here to prove you're not a troll and not a douche and you failed miserably.
#157 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
That's cute...pretending corruption only exists on one side of the aisle.
#158 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 258 weeks ago
"It really has no leaders"
Convicted terrorist Susan Rosenberg received a commuted sentence under the Clinton admin on his last day in office. She's on the board of BLM. George Soros gives millions to BLM. Look into Soros' comments and Davos and elsewhere for his thoughts and beliefs. It's something of reflexive thing on the left to say "pfft! Soros is a conspiracy" but then maybe talk about Rupert Murdoch in the same way. But yeah, please look into it.
I encourage you to look into the Russiagate thing more intimately. It was clear it was a witch hunt from the beginning as stated by many in the intelligence community and news media even. It was a big fishing expedition designed to lead breadcrumbs to manufactured "evidence".
If you think Stone did something wrong, fair enough, but consider the Rosenberg commuted sentence. If you're okay with literal domestic terrorism as in dynamic and submachine guns be my guest... (and also look into Obamas astronomically high number of commuted sentences and ICE and drone strike records).I've never aligned myself with the left or right, my voting record would show you that. I've always tried to follow the truth, do as much research as possible, and make sensible conclusions.
No, you have it all wrong. Unless you completely bury Trump and all Republicans regardless of the issue, you're the problem. Don't think. Don't look for information. Information is the enemy.
#159 Re: The Garden » Racial Discussion » 259 weeks ago
I just judge a person on who they are.
To Kill A Mockingbird for sure influenced my perspective.
No one should pay for the sins of their ancestors.
I agree with the class divide. Isn’t that what that great movie Blue Collar (1978) is about?
Years ago I might have said oh so and so is white or whatever their race. I don’t use that anymore as it puts that individual in a box, and I’m making their race an issue even though it isn’t (just using it as a description). I know I wouldn’t want to be referred as you know Sundance the White guy. Yes I’m white, but it demeans I find.
Also, I call people on their bullshit race stuff. I have a co worker and he was going on about such and such group being lazy and I was like dude that’s not true, base it on an individual and not their race. And this person is Italian so I could use a list of things people said about Italians back in the day.
The same person does make sexist comments at times, like oh a man can’t do that anymore blah blah or this woman gets away with everything. It’s like dude...
Now I’ve never seen them act sexist or racist to any individuals as they’re a good worker and genuinely nice.
So I call people out on their prejudices, and when I describe a person their colour, orientation play no role in how they’re mentioned.
This is how I was raised. I don't pay attention to things like race/teligion/sexual orientation unless something happens that forces me to take notice. I think most people are that way. Like many things, I think this is a situation where the few are fucking it up for the rest of us.
#160 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 259 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Why is Mitch still here? He is a garbage poster that does nothing but antagonize. Please tell me how calling Buzz a "bigot" in anyway is accurate, let alone part of any discussion. Remove this troll for good. He has no allies, he has no friends. He's just a distraction that in no way enhances the discussion or makes this forum any better. If this nonsense is tolerated, I have no interest in posting here.
I'm serious. Look at his posting history and how many posters interact with him. Everyone but one or two people pretends he doesn't exist, and his only purpose on this forum is to post and try to get a rise of either Buzz or myself.
See, here has always been the problem. You’ve never acknowledged your role in how things became this way. You have to bullied me. You have attempted to doxx me. Buzz has threatened violence against me. Yet I’m the only problem here?
I’ve had people PM me telling me just the same as above. I’m not the only one that believes this.
I think it’s utterly absurd the way you post on here. You are condescending, you are aggressive in your tone and you have crossed the line just as many times as anyone else here. Worst of all, you are not interested in anyone else’s perspective but you’re own.
You do not get to win.
If I wish to make my point via satire or anything else, that’s what I’m going to do. Because talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
Watch how you ignore this post. Watch how you choose not to acknowledge me or my point. Some say you are the problem here.
You do not get to win.
Buzz did not threaten violence against you. Buzz offered to meet with you to see if you're just a keyboard warrior or if you really believe the hate and venom you spew here daily. I've never minced words here and if I wanted to threaten violence, I'd threaten violence and not think twice about it. Since my one fight in my entire life was when I was 13, I think you're safe.
You fucked up beyond belief with racial slurs and homophobic slurs and now you just want to drag everyone else down with you. No son, you crossed a line and you get everything you deserve for doing it. You are everything (and more) that you accuse others of being, but you want to drag us down to your level. Not interested.
Reported.