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#151 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 108 weeks ago
Anything Goes:
PTU:
#152 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 108 weeks ago
PTU, Bad Obsession and Down On The Farm? But what will people whinge about now that they've changed up the setlist?
#153 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 108 weeks ago
Street Of Dreams, TWAT, PTU & Bad Apples soundchecked apparently
Holy shit, am I finally going to get to hear TWAT live?
#154 Re: Guns N' Roses » Using AI to give Axl Rose´s voice back » 108 weeks ago
The difference, I think, is that if you apply an AI layer of Young Axl to another singer, it's just going to sound like that singer trying to do an Axl Rose impression. Whereas if you apply a Young Axl AI layer to 2023 Axl, it's going to sound like, well, Axl. The dynamics, the tonality, the way he delivers the notes, will be identical – it'll just have his rasp from the 80s or 90s. Hell, you could even train it on different eras of his voice and dial in 1993 Axl or 1987 Axl or whatever.
#155 Re: Guns N' Roses » Using AI to give Axl Rose´s voice back » 108 weeks ago
Isn’t that young Harrison Ford just old unused Indy footage from the 80’s? I didn’t think it’s actual digital de-aging
No, it's definitely digital de-aging. They did train the AI on all the available footage they had of the young Ford – including footage that was left on the cutting room floor back in the 80s – but the final shot is all VFX:
#156 Re: Guns N' Roses » Using AI to give Axl Rose´s voice back » 108 weeks ago
I think the main problem with that song is not the voice, but Eric Dover's way of using his voice. He's got good pipes but he lacks the Axl factor on how exactly to make it sound special. On this song the AI can replicate the sound of Axl but not the dynamics if that is the right word.
Question is if the AI will ever be able to replicate subtle things like that.
I doubt it. It's why I think it'll predominantly be used in studio or live settings to give a little boost to the dynamics of a singer's voice, using that singer's voice as a "guide." Kind of like how de-ageing VFX is applied to an actor's face; it's easier to work with the existing bone structure and muscle movements than plop a mask of an actor over some other actor's face.
Compare, say, de-aged Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones trailer:
which was achieved by placing Young Harrison Ford's face over Old Harrison Ford and using his muscles and bone structure to guide the VFX…
…to resurrected Peter Cushing in Rogue One:
which was achieved by 3D scanning an old face cast of Peter Cushing and then dropping it over a different actor's performance.
I could very easily see the tech bods training up an AI model using the best-quality, isolated studio vocals of Axl from the 1980s and 1990s, and then applying that as a subtle effect layer over 2023 Axl's vocals. Taking the dynamics of modern Axl's voice and buffing them slightly with his old rasp. Probably in-studio initially, but as the technology matures it could be used in a live setting too. No one would be any the wiser, and it'd become one of those industry secrets that no-one talks about, like the way <famous aging drummer> allegedly has a session guy play his parts backstage while he mimes along, at concerts.
#157 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 108 weeks ago
I don't know what Roy Thomas Baker problem was when he told Axl he had no hits. I'm listening to the 98 mix of CD (song) and to me that's a fucking hit in 2000. The Blues is a hit. Catcher could be a hit. Those songs were ruined in production.
Roy Thomas Baker telling Axl he didn't have any hits is arguably the reason for the whole fucking mess. Those tracks were perfectly good at the time, and the knock to Axl's confidence prompted the next few years of navel-gazing and self-doubt and reworking and over-production.
#158 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 108 weeks ago
Just watched some of that. Not too shabby.
Unfortunately....92-93 GNR no longer floats my boat although I loved it at the time....and I spent thousands on all those overpriced bootlegs in the mid-late 90s.
I blow hot and cold on the bloated excesses of Gilby-era GN'R, the horn sections, the costume changes during Civil War etc. I would love to see a proper release from those 1993 shows where Izzy briefly returned to the band, though.
#159 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 108 weeks ago
metallex78 wrote:Scabbie wrote:Arguably velvet revolver did A better job of finding a mor modern gnr sound
Yep, especially the first album. Contraband has aged much much better than CD has.
I can still put it on and listen from start to finish and thoroughly enjoy it all of it, even the lesser songs.
While CD certainly has its moments as an album, the lows on there are pretty bad and I find it difficult to listen all the way through these days.
If Axl could put his ego aside, and considering the state of his voice, which Velvet Revolver songs do you think he could perform really well on this tour?
Even one or two would show the world that he has truly made peace with Duff and Slash, refresh the set list, and give fans something exciting to look forward to.
I mean, pretty much any of them, since Scott's vocal range is well within Axl's capabilities. Realistically they'd probably go for the most famous tracks – Fall to Pieces, Set Me Free, Do It For The Kids, etc.
#160 Re: Guns N' Roses » Josh School » 108 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:Scabbie wrote:Yeah, it seems like he's the safe choice for them, but I wish they'd gone with Rufus Taylor; he really feels like the spiritual successor to Taylor Hawkins.
I'll disagree.
Taylor loved Queen, but Rufus ain't Roger. I don't really like nepo babies.
Counterpoint:
Also, dressing up like a Christmas tree is exactly the sort of energy the gig needs:
