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#161 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

jimmythegent wrote:

I hope Uncle Axl re-does his vocals...

Could do, that seems part of how much they re-record etc. If they full re do the music would it be good for Axl to do a more hard rock vocal to match. They did wonders with Shadow so I wonder what can be done. I expect it to sound as diffferent as CD does to the demos. It’s going to do a few bumps.

#162 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

I think like UYI and AFD there seems like a lot of writers in the mix but then Slash and Duff will bring that sound and style people like. Slash has proven throughout GNR, VR and Solo he produces consistent hard rock products. So you would expect it to fall somewhere in VR territory sound wise, Slash tackling some more modern elements.

#163 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

Declan94 wrote:
wasted wrote:

10 years to make, 10 years to tour and promote. Repeat!

hey at least we might have one on the way right now but after that you need to wait another 11 years for a new album

They’ve probably been working on this one since 2008 if not before. Just one more re-record to go. Multiple albums all on different 10 year timelines. Soon AI will be making GNR albums in VR and the fans will be just one consciousness experiencing them simultaneously.

11 = II

#164 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 291 weeks ago

It all seems like a JB Turner book to me. Somewhere Reznick is wolfing a sandwich down while he drinks eight coffees staking out a false flag op to take out Trump.

#165 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

10 years to make, 10 years to tour and promote. Repeat!

#166 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:
wasted wrote:
elevendayempire wrote:

Besides which, SoE was always one of those "Axl pun" titles like "No Trickery" or "Not In This Lifetime." It's a specific reference to getting a stay of execution for New GN'R from the record company by putting out an album to placate them. The joke no longer applies, so I very much doubt that he'd use the title now.

I thought that title was connected to a letter Axl wrote to the Indo president about those drug mules that got a stay of execution but in the end got the death penalty? The copyright that title was for the press release?

At the time I thought it kind of reflected the Slash and Duff situation. Maybe Axl could forgive the drug mules and give them a stay of execution.

It’s a bad ass title though. Get Andy Warhol’s Electric Chair painting as the cover.

That may have been the inspiration, but I'm pretty sure that - given the band was in a pretty parlous state at that point and that getting a new album out was a "do or die" moment for New GN'R - Axl was referring to the album being a "stay of execution" for the band itself. It's a cool title, but it doesn't resonate with where the band is at now.

Guns N Roses are always on death row. It’s the nature of the business. But I know what you mean it’s a bit negative for this rebirth of GNR. It’s more like the Return of the Living Dead. Self titled seems to be the most likely.

Given that Axl wrote that letter and copyrighted that title he could have some lyrics about this subject.

#167 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Best of Rough Mixes Disc 2, Round 4 » 291 weeks ago

Kind of easy for me, Tonto isn’t as interesting but it could offer variety on an album. I should probably listen to it again with regards to Quick Song which I like but could be slowed down, probably a lot of Bucket stuff could be Blues’d out.

So I have to decide if Zodiac is better than the obvious ones. Eye probably goes next round for me so judgment day is inevitable.

Overall the leak stuff is in some ways more powerful than the CD songs. Maybe they just haven’t been messed with. Zodiac could be next level if completed.

#168 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album Thread » 291 weeks ago

elevendayempire wrote:
sp1at wrote:

It's not going to be called Stay of Execution, the trademark expired a long time ago and GN'R have never trademarked album titles, so it was never likely to be an album title.

Besides which, SoE was always one of those "Axl pun" titles like "No Trickery" or "Not In This Lifetime." It's a specific reference to getting a stay of execution for New GN'R from the record company by putting out an album to placate them. The joke no longer applies, so I very much doubt that he'd use the title now.

I thought that title was connected to a letter Axl wrote to the Indo president about those drug mules that got a stay of execution but in the end got the death penalty? The copyright that title was for the press release?

At the time I thought it kind of reflected the Slash and Duff situation. Maybe Axl could forgive the drug mules and give them a stay of execution.

It’s a bad ass title though. Get Andy Warhol’s Electric Chair painting as the cover.

#169 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Best of Rough Mixes Disc 2, Round 3 » 291 weeks ago

Declan94 wrote:
wasted wrote:

I think the salary is bigger than the writing credits? Royalties depend on sales. If Chi Dem is ever on a Chevrolet ad Freese will make a ton.

I think Axl said at some point that he wanted the album to have the spirit of those that toured it. That’s why Ron was on it. But actually Ron played rhythm guitar on every track.

The Costanzo digital edit version is very different to the 00s album. It has a much more electronic element and Ron brought a 00s prog rock feel to it. Frank kind of rocked out the drums on the 5 singles.

Overall though I’ve realized that it’s Axl’s lyrics and vocals that really are the song. Even on Nothing or Eye On You there’s a song there. You could do acoustic versions with Izzy and it would fly.

i think frank and ron re recording on it slowed the process for about a year and a half and 2006 was the perfect time for release it would have sold more and axl was doing interviews around that time anyway it would have been viewed as a better album by the public and we would have had cd 2 a few years later

That always seems to be the case, the early it was released the more it would sell and the less stick it would have got from some areas. However, I think certain songs like TIL and Sorry weren’t finished until 2006? but it was all finished by 2006, 2007- 8 was record company delay. It was really a problem after 2004. Bucket left.

It really goes back to lack of support. Even the 1999 album could have been put out in some form, and rec comp /Jimmy whoever could have had the vision to say Ok, this is the first record, now do one with RTB, then do the next one. But there was no support past 1 record it seems. Like Zutaut said in 1999 the recomp wanted to sell 20 million records, Jimmy put 10 mil up to re-record but by 2004 selling 20 mil still wasn’t happening.

The whole trilogy idea was much better to make the whole thing a success but I don’t think that was really what was wanted. It was too much of a struggle when you have Eminem killing it on the same label.

Still by 2006 it had become such a mythological thing and CD itself is pretty bulletproof. It’s like 10,000 piece jigsaw of sign posts that point to all these other eventualities. The fact that there’s still another CD worth of material to come kind of makes the whole project much more satisfying. The sales of the album don’t really reflect how important the record was.

#170 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 291 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Tax hikes on people earning 80k?

Despite the press coverage, you actually need to be in the top 3% to earn that, not even 5%.

Tbh even if it was a few percent on lower earners, it'd be worth it for public services the Tories took an axe too.

So what are the downsides? This is what I was saying before. Why not get free stuff?

I know some of it is on principle. Sales people think they are generating wealth but it’s all borrowed money in the first place. Financial services, lawyers - it’s all fictional. It’s not what people really need.

Fiddling around with rules isn’t really that important. It’s rich people not feeling as important as they think they are. They think they can get better deals for themselves. Seems like ruling elites’ money is slipping away. They see the EU growing and they want out. Boris doesn’t even a need a job. He’s from a rich family. So he wants power. He’s there repping rich people.


At first I thought Labour would be spending and the national debt was a real issue. But it’s not. Tories are going to spend a ton and with all the losses from Brexit it’s an even bigger hole to dig out of. But that’s not for the rich, it’s the rabble that are going to have work it out. And my guess is we can’t.

My new theory is Tories are for taking back control, they’d rather be poor kings than rich slaves. Labour is a vote to actually get something out of the system for people that need it.

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