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#161 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 109 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

What we need is a proper remaster, but won't happen with the reunion band. Perhaps the best thing would be to compile a whole new album with Slash and Duff, using songs from CD and from "CD II", and then make that the last GN'R album. In a sense that would be similar to a hypothetical late 90s, early 00s GN'R album.

The problem I have with that is... they have Slash, and Duff, and Fortus, and Melissa and Dizzy in the band. All songwriters with credits to their name, all more than capable of putting together a decent song. It is such a ridiculous waste of their talents – and, frankly, insulting to them – to have the only material to come out of the band be rehashed leftovers from 20-odd years ago, which they had nothing to do with writing.

#162 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 109 weeks ago

Brodie 2 wrote:

As a final adieu, do you think that Mr. Rose finally realized what an incompetent fuck-up he was in 2008 after the two self-sabotaged big payday reunion attempts and his soft blacklisting from the industry or how else do you explain his psychotic break and subsequent stay in the loony bin? Oh, you thought he just vanished from doing promo for no reason?

Well, to the best of my knowledge Axl hasn't used someone's mental health as a stick to beat them with, which makes him a better person than you, at least.

#163 Re: Guns N' Roses » Josh School » 109 weeks ago

Yeah, it seems like he's the safe choice for them, but I wish they'd gone with Rufus Taylor; he really feels like the spiritual successor to Taylor Hawkins.

#164 Re: Guns N' Roses » Josh School » 109 weeks ago

Or! If you've got the multitracks I'd love to have a play about with them myself...

#165 Re: Guns N' Roses » Josh School » 109 weeks ago

th151 wrote:

Hello!

I've always loved Josh Freese's drums on the Village Sessions version of "Hard School," so I quickly threw this version together that combines Josh's drums with all of the other parts from version released in 2001.

Thanks!
- th151

Could you do a version minus Finck's guitar bits during the bridge? As much as I like 'em on the demo they kinda clash with what Slash is playing...

#166 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 110 weeks ago

Nah, we need an album from this line-up – preferably with at least some of the songs written by this lineup – for closure.

#167 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 110 weeks ago

ClaudeF wrote:
elevendayempire wrote:

And then Axl made the frankly baffling decision to bring Robin back in, and proceed with a three-guitar line-up with two lead guitarists. Immediately, to the press and the wider public, you're implying that Slash was such a towering figure that you need not one but two lead guitarists to replace him. You're belittling your own hires.

This is a great point. In 2002 the stage seemed crowded and the guitarists came across as disconnected. When Bucket isn’t playing, he stands around like the Tinman waiting for oil.

He did a lot of standing around.

Had he been the only lead guitarist it would’ve allowed him to provide a lot more music and charisma.

He, er, does that anyway. Standing around being "deactivated" and then springing into life to shred is kind of the keystone of his stage persona.

#168 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Tommy Stinson appearance on Podcast » 110 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

Tommy recently appeared on a podcast called Lifers, hosted by Scott Lucas of Local H.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7hTWOK … 5EZK5YWMKg

Touches on GnR a couple of times. Mentions he recently got a text from Duff and Richard.

Always thought Duff and Tommy should go and form a band together; they could alternate bass and guitar. Get Fortus on lead (if you even need a lead guitarist in a punk band...) and you've got a pretty nifty line-up there.

#169 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 110 weeks ago

James wrote:

bucket discussion....

While Bucket definitely improved a few of the songs no doubt....IRS, TWAT, Riad, and was great on If the World and Sorry....I can definitely see Polluxlm's point. The Village Sessions leak showed that the first album was ready to go without him.

They probably could have released a Bucket-less Chinese Democracy in 2000 or whatever, but I doubt it would've landed. I mean, I like Robin Finck (probably more than most) but I don't think he's a full-fledged replacement for Slash; he's just too different. A tone monster rather than a lead guitar hero in the Slash mould (though I would love to see him in a Queen/Zeppelin-style band where he's the only guitar player and his unique tone is able to shine through).

The fact that Axl seized on Buckethead when he first discovered him shows that Axl, at least, was aware of that. Buckethead was, as others have pointed out, Axl's Randy Rhoads. A guitar prodigy who could do the twiddly technical stuff (better than Slash, if we're being honest) but could also do soulful material like Mrs Beasley. A stage presence, with an iconic silhouette; it's no wonder the press seized on Buckethead as the face of "new GN'R" and kept doing so even after he'd left the band.

And then Axl made the frankly baffling decision to bring Robin back in, and proceed with a three-guitar line-up with two lead guitarists. Immediately, to the press and the wider public, you're implying that Slash was such a towering figure that you need not one but two lead guitarists to replace him. You're belittling your own hires.

Axl should've committed to a two-guitar line-up, with a lead and a rhythm player. Either Robin and Huge, and release the thing in 2000/2001, or Bucket and Huge (or Fortus) and release it in 2002/3. You could conceivably make a case for Bucket and Robin (which would've been... interesting but would still have been effectively two lead players competing with each other).

Axl's argument that "you need three guitarists to play all the parts" never held water. The older GN'R tracks worked fine live with two, and the fact that they're now playing Chinese Democracy tracks with two guitarists gives the lie to the idea that those songs ever needed three guitarists.

#170 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 110 weeks ago

Sky Dog wrote:

bucket IRS could have been a good first single but would be the same as TWAT….huge guitar solos by someone who wasn’t in the band anymore.

If only the band hadn't made that pissy public statement about Bucket, they might have managed to keep him on board.

Really, from a marketing perspective Axl should've done anything and everything possible to keep Bucket in the band. Lose Robin? Fine. Lose Tommy? Do it. Buckethead was the iconic figure of the Chinese Democracy era, and the only one who had a hope of displacing Slash in the public imagination.

Imagine a Bizarro-world 2006 GN'R line-up with, like, Axl, Buckethead, Fortus, Duff (who I'm pretty sure would've jumped at the chance if Tommy had been given the boot), Brain, Stinson and Dizzy. Not beyond the bounds of possibility.

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