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#17941 The Garden » Clinton Health Plan for Americans Only » 923 weeks ago

James
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WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that immigrants living in the U.S. illegally would not be covered by her proposed universal health care plan.

The New York senator said she supports basic health services for illegal immigrants, including hospitalization and treatment of acute conditions. But she said the magnitude of the nation's health care challenge means her universal coverage proposal would not cover the 12 million people living in the country illegally.

"People who are here legally deserve some better treatment and acceptance in the law than people who are not here legally," she said. "These are hard choices."

As for ways to reduce pressure on the overburdened health care system, she said she could envision using "carrots and maybe a few sticks" to motivate people to lose weight and make other behavioral changes that could help.

Speaking at a forum sponsored by several health care organizations, Clinton addressed a range of questions on the future of Social Security and Medicare, racial and gender disparities in health care coverage and ways to encourage medical students to become primary care doctors rather than specialists.

Most of all, there were questions about her proposed $110 billion health care plan and how it would bring order to a fractured system.

She didn't directly address questions of whether smokers or obese people should pay more for health care but said as president she would use the "bully pulpit" to encourage healthy lifestyle choices, particularly among young people.

Clinton, who has publicly fretted about her weight, drew laughs as she recalled competing for presidential physical fitness awards as a child.

"We were rounded up and taken to the gym where we had to jump and run. I was horrible at it. They kept telling me to run and I'd say, 'I'm running,'" she said. "It was a very strong message to children that the president cares about your health care. I personally believed Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy were sitting in the White House signing my certificate."

The former first lady also spoke about her failure to enact universal coverage during her husband's presidency, assuring audience members that she would not repeat the mistakes that doomed that effort.

Among other things, she said it had been a mistake to try to draft the plan out of the White House, and that as president she had no intention of producing the specific legislation for Congress to consider.

"I'm setting goals for the country. But I know how important it is to work out the details in consultation with the Congress," she said.

Clinton scoffed at suggestions from Republican presidential rivals that her plan is little more than socialized medicine, calling them "old, tired accusations."

The Republican National Committee said her "government-run health care plan" would be paid for through hire taxes on hardworking people.

"Senator Clinton encourages people to lead healthy lifestyles, which will occur as they run from her plan to socialize medicine, just as they did in 1993," RNC spokesman Danny Diaz said.

Clinton acknowledged the need to bring a broad spectrum of interests together in order to enact her proposed plan

"I think we'll have a very strong coalition that will be able to make the case to Congress," she said. "Nobody will come out of this process with 100 percent of what he or she wants."

Clinton also said the task would be made easier if more Democrats were elected to the Senate in 2008.

"It's one of my highest priorities," she said.

#17942 The Sunset Strip » Top 10 dumbest celebrity quotes » 923 weeks ago

James
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Christina Aguilera
Quote: 'So, where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?'

Ivana Trump
Quote: 'Fiction writing is great. You can make up almost anything.'

Jessica Simpson
Quote: 'I'm not anorexic. I'm from Texas. Are there people from Texas that are anorexic? I've never heard of one. And that includes me.'

Tara Reid
Quote: 'I make Jessica Simpson look like a rock scientist.'

Dan Quayle
Quote: 'The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.'

Alicia Silverstone
Quote: 'I think that the film '˜Clueless' was very deep. I think it was deep in the way that it was very light. I think lightness has to come from a very deep place if it's true lightness'

Linda Evangelista
Quote: 'It was God who made me so beautiful. If I weren't, then I'd be a school teacher.'

George Bush
Quote: 'I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them'

Brooke Shields
Quote: 'Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life'

Arnold Schwarzenegger
Quote: 'I think gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman'

#17943 The Sunset Strip » Step on it! Britney drives over paparazzo’s foot » 923 weeks ago

James
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BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - It might just be Britney Spears' latest hit.

Hours after losing visitation rights with her two young sons, the struggling pop star apparently ran over the foot of a photographer for celebrity Web site TMZ.com. Spears was driving away from a Beverly Hills medical building, her car surrounded by photographers, when the incident occurred about 5 p.m. Thursday.

Messages left with her attorney weren't immediately returned.

Video posted on the Hollywood.TV Web site shows elements of the incident but not the tire rolling over the cameraman's foot.

The video shows Spears beginning to pull out of the structure when her car is surrounded by more than a dozen photographers. The car comes to a stop.

Spears honks and the car lurches forward a few feet. Shouting is heard, and the camera jerks around as fellow photographers appear to help a man up.

Spears drives off and seconds later video shows what appears to be a tire mark on the photographer's sock. The man, wearing sandals with white socks, doesn't respond to questions from the others as he walks away, apparently unhurt.

TMZ producer Gillian Sheldon confirmed Friday that the photographer was employed by the Web site. She said there were no plans to file a police report. In a statement released by TMZ, the photographer indicated he wasn't angry.

'Things happen at certain times and she was just a little impatient,' said the man, whose name wasn't released. 'She got a little impatient for whatever reason. I say let bygones be bygones.'

Earlier Thursday, Spears, 25, learned she can no longer visit her two preschool-age sons, who are in the custody of ex-husband Kevin Federline, until she complies with an order from Superior Court Commissioner Scott Gordon.

Gordon's ruling didn't spell out what directives Spears had defied, but a hearing was scheduled for Oct. 26.

Previously, though, Gordon has ordered Spears to undergo random drug and alcohol testing twice a week and to meet weekly with a 'parenting coach.'

Spears faces charges of hit and run and driving without a valid license as the result of an Aug. 6 parking lot mishap.

In that incident, paparazzi photographed Spears steering her car into another vehicle as she tried to park in a space in a Studio City lot. The video showed her walking away after assessing the damage to her own car.

© 2007 The Associated Press

#17944 The Sunset Strip » Another ‘rehab widow’ points finger at Lindsay Lohan » 923 weeks ago

James
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Sigh. At this juncture, it seems far more outrageous to admit that your loved one's rehab at Utah's Cirque Lodge did NOT include a sexual encounter with Lindsay Lohan. But for Breanna Tierney, losing her betrothed to Hollywood's favorite fixer-upper still came as a shock. The latest relationship casualty of Lindsay's rehab stint spoke to the National Enquirer about her finance's tryst with the star.

'I loved Riley (Van Giles) and Lindsay stole him,' Breanna told NE. 'I met her at a meeting while they were still patients at Cirque, and I just knew something was up. She came into the meeting with Riley, and she comes over and sits next to me, being overly nice. She was complimenting me on my hair and trying to be my friend. It didn't seem sincere at all.'

Breanna said her suspicions were soon confirmed 'when he finally confessed to me that he had sex with Lindsay in one of the stairwells at Cirque '” that was it, we were done.' To review: In the last two months, LiLo's been accused of breaking up a marriage via a toilet romp with another rehabber, inspiring a brawl and even getting cozy with Richie Sambora on Cirque grounds.

As Breanna assessed to NE, 'Lindsay has no morals and needs some serious help '” besides drug rehab '” for all her other problems." Meanwhile, the world awaits diagnosis of the substance-abusing boyfriend Lindsay allegedly 'stole.'

#17945 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 923 weeks ago

Wow. The drug casualties continue.......

#17946 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 923 weeks ago

Ah, too late. Should've happened many years ago. It will never live up to your guys expectations. Take it from an old school fan who got to see some of the 80's dream matches happen in the mid late 90's.

#17947 Re: The Garden » U.S. in ‘pointless’ campaign in Iraq, Putin says » 923 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

It just sounds like he's trying to paint Russia as being as strong as the USSR was because they've lost the fear and respect they had in the 50s - 80s.  Considering the USSR history in the region, I think he should probably keep his mouth shut on the issue.

Russia is a major player on the world stage. When the dollar crashes, Russia and not China fills the power vacuum. I find it laughable(and I'm sure Putin does as well) how the US(specifically the media) doesn't take Russia seriously. They are sitting on more oil and other energy sources than the rest of the world combined. Russia makes the middle east look like a puddle of oil at your local auto shop. They have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and Putin has rebuilt their military. Their navy is no longer corroded with rust in harbor.Their military is well rested while the US fights meaningless wars.

While the dollar loses value by the day, the Euro takes its place slowly as the world's top currency. While we pile on the debt by billions a day, Russia continues signing huge agreements with Euro and Asian countries building pipelines throughout the continent.

Russia not strong? Are you kidding? While we sit on a 9 trillion dollar and growing debt, Russia is up to its neck in money. They dont even know what to do with it. Their middle class is booming, while ten years ago their middle class didn't even exist anymore.

Just because Russia doesn't jump into ridiculous wars doesn't mean they aren't strong. Putin is very smart.  He isnt going to do what the US and Russia did during the cold war and fight a bunch of proxy wars. He's going to sit back and let us kill ourselves.

#17948 Re: The Garden » What are you eating? » 923 weeks ago

I just ate a bowl of Grape Nuts.

#17949 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy tidbits (RUMORS) » 923 weeks ago

F*ck Fear wrote:

I want that HOB 2001 dvd more than the record at this point, as I know one exists.

I am a huge BH fan, and I consider the 2001 lineup to be the best lineup in the post Izzy era(no offense Bumblefoot), but my interest in that HOB vid has dropped to pretty much zero. The people hoarding that really dropped the ball big time. They could have had every demo in circulation in early 06. Once the 06 tour started and things started moving along, interest in that show and era of the band dropped dramatically.

It was almost worthless in 06, and it really became worthless in 07 when Madagascar leaked, since it was rumored that the main page of the DVD had a studio version of Madagascar playing. That was one of the things that added to its myth.

Will I watch it if it leaks? Yeah. Will I care if it never leaks? No, especially considering we have the CD era's best show already in great quality(Rio 01),.

#17950 Re: The Garden » The NFL 2007-08 Season thread » 923 weeks ago

I only caught bits and pieces of the game. I always flip back and forth when I watch football. I really hope the Pats and Colts are both undefeated when they play. That game is going to be huge. That is turning into a rivalry just like the Dallas-SF rivalry of the mid 90's.

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