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#17971 Re: The Garden » The NFL 2007-08 Season thread » 923 weeks ago

Great article about the Pats....

The NFL season is less than one-third over, yet it's already been distilled to one issue, unquestionably the greatest issue that can be raised in pro football.

Can a team go through an entire season undefeated?

The team in question is the New England Patriots, now 6-0, who seem invulnerable. They've got the highest-scoring offense in the NFL and have the second-stingiest defense. They've got the most prolific quarterback in Tom Brady and the hardest-to-cover wide receiver in Randy Moss, and they resemble (bow your heads) Joe Montana to Jerry Rice.

They went on the road last week and stepped on the Cowboys' necks at the end of the game like Dallas was a JV team.

And after it was proven by the NFL that the Patriots had cheated by videotaping opponents' signals, the Patriots have played as if somebody cheated them, with a vengeance, whipped into a frenzy by the offending party, their coach, Bill Belichick. Having already beaten the Cowboys into submission, the Patriots nonetheless rolled into the end zone with only seconds remaining to score what appeared to be a spiteful touchdown, the kind that leads you to pity the team on the wrong end, even the previously undefeated Cowboys.

It's a wondrous thing to watch, these Patriots, Brady throwing to Moss, Brady throwing to Wes Welker, Brady throwing to Dont¿ Stallworth. Nobody, until now, has thrown for 21 touchdowns through the first six games of a season. Brady is on pace to throw 56 touchdown passes (Peyton Manning has the record, 49). Brady's passer rating (128.9) would be an NFL record. His 72.5 percent completion rate would be an NFL record.

Of course, there's a difference between greatness and perfection, which is why people become obsessed with any team that looks capable of going undefeated. Just the scores (38-14, 38-14, 38-7, 34-13, 34-17, 48-27) suggest the Patriots are untouchable, to the point that you look at the schedule and ask, "Can anybody beat the Patriots?"

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Okay, it's not like pro football doesn't have this issue pop up every now and then. In fact, every few years, six weeks into the season, there's a team that opens the discussion.

But nobody ever finishes the job. The Dolphins went 14-0 in 1972, then 3-0 in the postseason. But since the NFL went to a 16-game season in 1978, no team has gone undefeated through the regular season. The Colts went 13-0 in 2005, and wound up losing at home to the Steelers in the playoffs. In 1998, John Elway's Broncos went 13-0 before losing to the Giants, settled for 14-2 and a Super Bowl championship. The same season the Vikings went 15-1, losing one lousy game by a field goal, then the NFC championship game at home. The franchise has been in a tailspin since.

The 1991 Redskins went 11-0 before losing to the Cowboys and Eagles by a grand total of five points. Then they romped through the postseason for the franchise's most recent Super Bowl. The '83 Redskins, at times, looked like these Patriots, which is to say unstoppable offensively. But that team, with Joe Theismann, John Riggins, Art Monk, Darrell Green, the Hogs, the Fun Bunch, etc., is dismissed historically because it was obliterated by the Raiders in the Super Bowl.

The two greatest teams of the Super Bowl era are the 1985 Bears, who went 12-0 before losing to the Dolphins, and the 1989 49ers, who lost two games by a total of five points. Each won the Super Bowl. Those 49ers, created by the late Bill Walsh, who retired before that season, essentially invented offensive football as we know it today. With Montana throwing to Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig and Tom Rathman, the offense is what the Patriots aspire to be. And the 49ers' defense, hardly ever talked about, had Ronnie Lott, Charles Haley, Keena Turner, Eric Wright, and a young linebacker who hadn't totally lost his mind yet by the name of Bill Romanowski. The Niners were dreamy good.

And the '85 Bears were a nightmare, a team that opponents were physically afraid of. Theismann says he can, still today, close his eyes and see the Bears' front four of Richard Dent, Steve McMichael, the Fridge and Dan Hampton, all coming after him.

So, it's into this discussion that the Patriots step. They seem to have a 49ers-like offense, and a touch of the Bears' meanness and ferocity. It's such a complete team the defending champion Colts, also undefeated, have been reduced to "also starring" on the season's marquee.

The Nov. 4 game between the Colts and Patriots in Indianapolis very likely will determine home field advantage in the AFC. Tickets at an online site yesterday afternoon were selling for $1,275 to $4,500. The Patriots' game with the Cowboys attracted more viewers than CBS has had for an NFL game since 1998. The Patriots are the story until they lose -- if they lose.

Belichick dismisses the talk. Brady dismisses it. They all dismiss it. They'll tell you that the team on deck, the winless Dolphins, are a real threat Sunday down in Miami. Of course, there's even drama in that matchup because the '72 Dolphins make their yearly champagne toast whenever the last undefeated team is beaten. The Dolphins took great pleasure in 1985, on "Monday Night Football," no less, in beating the undefeated Bears themselves. These Dolphins look like a pretty sorry lot, but by Sunday they'll have heard a week's worth of comments from the old ring-wearing forefathers about the pride and glory they played with, how this rebuilding season can be remembered, if for nothing else, for stopping the run of what historically has been one of the Dolphins' most bitter rivals.

Belichick, who has taken over from Joe Gibbs when it comes to convincing folks that dreadful teams are potent, was talking up the Dolphins the moment the Cowboys had been put away, which is why the Patriots are not going to lose in Miami on Sunday. They're more likely to lose to the Redskins the following week at home, what with the Colts on deck.

The trip to Indy, though, isn't the last big hurdle. The Patriots have to play in Baltimore on a Monday night, Dec. 3, then at home six days later against a Steelers team that loves just such a rumble, then Dec. 29 on the road against the Giants, who might just be playing for playoff position. That's four killer games, three of them in December.

No team has ever gone 16-0 in the regular season for the simple reason that it's too difficult. The bet here is it will prove too difficult for the Patriots, too. The fun, nevertheless, is in watching a team that's talented enough, well coached enough, resourceful enough, even ruthless enough to make us think as October turns to November that perfection is possible.

#17972 Re: The Sunset Strip » Spears turns herself in to L.A. police » 923 weeks ago

Abbey_Road wrote:

She also had her visitation rights with her children suspended


http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/18/britney-g … suspended/

I'm not surprised. She was just photographed by the paparazzi(and also posed for them) wearing a shirt that says "fuck off lover boy". Also drives around holding a dog in her hand. This bitch couldn't get any dumber if you removed her brain.

#17973 Re: The Garden » Maine middle school to offer birth control » 923 weeks ago

They might do it, but schools don't need to encourage it.

If society is to the point where 11 year old girls are having promiscuous sex, its time we all take a look at our values. The world needs to stop obsessing over what Britney Spears is wearing today, stop downloading online porn, and many other shallow and self indulgent things long enough to figure out what is wrong.

Giving rubbers doesn't help. It encourages the behavior, and condoms are not 100% effective. They're not when adults use them, so I doubt the percentage of protection goes up when 11 year olds use them.

Also, using birth control pills increases the chance of stroke, heart attacks,etc., regardless of the age of the user. If I had children, I would be appalled at the possibility of schools handing out birth control pills like candy to my kid so they can screw anything that moves.

Our society has literally went off the cliff. There's no hope left.

No wonder american kids are now dumber than they've ever been. Test scores prove this. We're approaching third world standards.

Instead of schools revolving around knowledge, it revolves around sex.

#17974 The Garden » 2 adults, 2 children fatally shot in Detroit home » 923 weeks ago

James
Replies: 4

DETROIT - Two adults and two children were fatally shot as they slept Thursday in a home known for drug activity, renewing pleas for community members to take more responsibility in the fight against violence.

Police were questioning someone found with the adult man victim's vehicle, which they think the shooter took, Sgt. Eren Stephens Bell said. Police did not discuss a possible motive.

Officers found no signs of forced entry after getting the call around 3:30 a.m., and the doors and windows of the two-story brick bungalow were reinforced with two-by-fours and locks, Police Chief Ella Bully-Cummings said. The bodies of the children were found in one room, police said, while the bodies of the adults were in another.

Police have responded to the house in the past on reports of shots fired and narcotics complaints, Bully-Cummings said. A gun was not found at the scene, but casings from a high-powered weapon were recovered, she said.

'I'm tired of seeing our children die,' the chief said. 'We as adults have a responsibility to our children to allow them to grow up as adults in a safe environment, and we're failing them.'

Pandora Eppinger said her niece, 9-year-old Alexus Eppinger, and nephew, 5-year-old Terrence Eppinger Jr., were killed.

'It's scary out here. You can't go out anywhere and feel safe,' Eppinger said.

'They were just little, sweet kids,' she said. 'Why would they do that?'

Community shocked over kids' deaths
The children's mother, Lynnette Lawson, 28, and Jason Davis, 34, also died, according to the Wayne County medical examiner's office and relatives who gathered in the morning rain near the home. The boy died of a gunshot wound to the abdomen, and the others were shot multiple times at close range, according to the medical examiner's office.

Georgia Davis, 53, said her son, Jason, had been dating Lawson recently.

'Why would someone kill those kids?' she said. 'They're crazy.'

Bully-Cummings, speaking to reporters on the street just hours after the shootings, reiterated a plea for Detroiters to take responsibility for the community, one she has made repeatedly since taking the job in 2003.

In 2004, she and other officials joined a coalition of ministers in prayer as they called on residents to join them in ending a culture of violence in the city. But the killings have continued.

2 convicted for killing boys
The four were killed a day after a man and woman were convicted of murdering two boys who were shot in a ransacked Detroit apartment in February. Authorities say they planned to kidnap the boys' cousin and rob him of cocaine and cash.

Three additional suspects are awaiting trial. A sixth suspect pleaded guilty to second-degree murder.

In September, police said four people were killed in a shooting at a home where a large amount of illegal drugs were found. The county prosecutor's office said a man is facing four murder charges.

Deondrey Peterson, 33, lives near the scene of Thursday's killings and said he wants to move out of Detroit because of such violence.

'It's ridiculous. It's senseless,' Peterson said. 'My main concern is the kids. ... How are we going to have a future?'

© 2007 The Associated Press

#17975 Re: The Garden » Maine middle school to offer birth control » 923 weeks ago

Its official. Society has now permanently flushed itself down the toilet. We live in an era where 11 year old girls have received a seal of approval to have sex, and get school backing to do it without parental knowledge. Disgusting. Do people really wonder why kids have sex? Or the fact sex offenders cruise schools? Isn't it obvious?

They might as well just start handing out condoms to five year olds. Its leading in that direction, so why delay the inevitable?

I'm never having children. Our society is too far gone.

#17976 The Garden » Maine middle school to offer birth control » 923 weeks ago

James
Replies: 6

PORTLAND, Maine - Pupils at a city middle school will be able to get birth control pills and patches at their student health center after the local school board approved the proposal Wednesday evening.

The plan, offered by city health officials, makes King Middle School the first middle school in Maine to make a full range of contraception available to students in grades 6 through 8, according to the state Department of Health and Human Services.

There are no national figures on how many middle schools, where most students range in age from 11 to 13, provide such services.

'It's very rare that middle schools do this,' said Divya Mohan, a spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.

The Portland School Committee voted 7-2 for the measure.

Chairman John Coyne voted against it, saying he felt providing the birth control was a parental responsibility. The other no vote came from Ben Meiklejohn, who said the consent form does not clearly define the services being offered.

Opponents cited religious and health objections.

Diane Miller said she felt the plan was against religion and against God. Another opponent, Peter Doyle, said he felt it violated the rights of parents and puts students at risk of cancer because of hormones in the pill.

A supporter, Richard Verrier, said it's not enough to depend on parents to protect their children because there may be students who can't discuss things with their parents.

Parental permission required
Condoms have been available since 2000 to King students who have parental permission to be treated at its student health center.

About one-fourth of student health centers that serve at least one grade of adolescents 11 and older dispense some form of contraception, said Mohan, whose Washington-based organization represents more than 1,700 school-based centers nationwide.

At King Middle School, birth control prescriptions will be given after a student undergoes a physical exam by a physician or nurse practitioner, said Lisa Belanger, who oversees Portland's student health centers.

Students treated at the centers must first get written parental permission, but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive.

Five of the 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

A high school in Topeka, Kan., stopped providing free condoms to students Wednesday after district officials learned of the month-old program. The district has a policy against providing contraceptives.

#17977 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver....and mainstream success » 923 weeks ago

Also, the fact they were playing a setlist heavy in new material shows they were really behind this record and were pushing it. Same with M.I.A. She plays a setlist that consists of 90% new material.

#17979 Re: The Garden » Chancellor's warning to homeowners as IMF predicts devastating crash » 923 weeks ago

The US and the UK need to just let the housing market collapse. Yeah, it'll be bad and a lot of people will lose their homes, but the longer they delay the inevitable, the worse the disaster will be. The market needs to collapse so it can start to correct itself. Just like how the US economy badly needs to go into a deep recession so the economy can get on a path towards recovery.

The world is in for a bumpy road ahead.

#17980 The Garden » Chancellor's warning to homeowners as IMF predicts devastating crash » 923 weeks ago

James
Replies: 1

The Chancellor rebuked mortgage lenders yesterday for fuelling an 'unsustainable' boom in house prices.

In an exclusive interview with the Daily Mail, Alistair Darling said banks and building societies must be more responsible with their lending.

Predicting a 'slowdown' in the property market, he urged them to be more cautious about how much they lend and take more account of whether the borrower is able to pay back the loan.

His stern message coincided with a warning from the International Monetary Fund that Britain's economy, with its heavy reliance on property, was hugely susceptible to a housing-market crash. Mr Darling said he believed a fall in house price inflation was both desirable and likely.

'An unsustainable house price inflation is not good for individuals, is not good for the economy, so I think it will slow down,' he said.

In a wide-ranging interview, the first since he delivered his controversial 'magpie' Pre Budget Report last week, the Chancellor left little doubt about his irritation with the home loan providers. He demanded that they ask 'more searching questions' to prevent borrowers overstretching themselves.

Last year Abbey, Britain's second biggest lender, changed its rules allowing it to grant loans of five times the borrower's salary, and sometimes up to seven times.

Other lenders, such as Northern Rock and the Halifax subsidiary Birmingham Midshires, were willing to lend 125 per cent of the value of a home. Darlington Building Society offered up to six times salary with its Income Stretch deal.

The Financial Services Authority has also warned that one in ten homebuyers is taking out an interest-only mortgage.

These are popular because the monthly payments are cheaper, but a buyer must repay the original capital sum when the loan ends. The FSA said ten per cent of interest-only borrowers have no idea how they will pay back the money when the time comes, with many simply relying on a buoyant housing market to add equity to their home. Mortgage brokers have also been encouraging homebuyers to lie about their finances to qualify for huge mortgages up to eight times their salary.

'I think that lenders need to be clear that firstly somebody can afford to meet the repayments whatever they are - that they haven't overstretched themselves,' said Mr Darling.

In the early 1990s house prices crashed leaving borrowers with mortgages which were larger than than the underlying value of their homes leaving them in what became known as negative equity. 'If lenders take a more robust view of what they are doing that's not a bad thing at down but that is a relative thing because it has been growing so strongly.'

Clearly, the American 'trailer park' mortgage market which started the credit freeze which brought Northern Rock down has given the Government pause. The impact of the U.S. housing collapse and the emerging problems in Britain is evident today in the latest authoritative forecasts from the Washington-based IMF. It said house price rises in the UK, Ireland and Spain had been surging even faster than those in the U.S. before the recent market collapse, making these countries particularly vulnerable.

'Could a housing correction in western Europe be as deep as in the United States?' asked the IMF report. Its analysis 'suggests that house price overvaluation may be considerably larger '¦ and there would clearly be a sizeable impact on the housing markets in the event of a widespread credit crunch'.

Forecast growth for the leading Western economies has been downgraded from 2.7 per cent to 2.2 per cent next year, with the U.S. barely expanding enough to hold down unemployment. The IMF says that UK output will expand by 2.3 per cent against a spring forecast of 2.7 per cent.

Mr Darling, who is heading to Washington for his first meeting of the Group of Seven richest countries tomorrow, says he will be pressing fellow finance ministers and central bankers for financial market reforms in the wake of the American subprime crisis and the Northern Rock fiasco. 'We have to make sure we have a far better surveillance system to spot these problems and take action to head them off,' the Chancellor argued.

In contrast to the IMF, the Chancellor is hopeful that even if house prices start to slow or even fall, we are not heading for an early 1990s style crash.

'I am confident we can get through this, but we are going to go through a turbulent period,' he said. 'That is why I downgraded my expectations for growth quite sharply because of what is happening in the United States and in Europe as a whole.'

He does believe that over the longer term there could be a correction in the housing market but it will take place in a orderly manner. 'What you want to avoid is a very rapid unplanned adjustment,' he said.

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