You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#171 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 871 weeks ago
So will there be more than one disc like the UYI discs? Can't wait to know the details.
It's naturally possible.
"The Big Damn Band, an Indianapolis-based roots blues trio, served as the supporting act for the Derek Trucks Band Feb. 23 at the Roxy Theatre in Hollywood, Calif. Rose caught Trucks in action, and then hit a VIP party at upstairs bar On the Rox. Big Damn Band members the Rev. Josh Peyton, Breezy Peyton and Jayme Peyton also attended the party.
Beyond the high-profile gig on the West Coast, the arrival of Jayme's birthday at midnight gave the group reason to celebrate. [...] Jayme says the party eventually moved to Trucks' tour bus, where Rose produced a CD and previewed some of 'Chinese Democracy' - which the singer said will be sold as a 3-disc collection." (Celebratedsounds, 03/02/06)
Axl and his cohorts have consistently said he has about three albums worth of material. Axl and Sean Beavan both said that by the time Beavan left the project in early '00, there was enough to cover two separate albums. The additional tracks were done during the additional writing/recording stint with Roy Thomas Baker in 2001, which was the last great year of the band working as a singular unit in the studio. The Beavan tracks mostly go back to around 1998.
Dumping the motherload all at once maybe the thing which makes the Best Buy deal a necessity - a controlled, UYI-like release of three separate albums, CD vol I, II and III. Just open the Pandora's Box out into the open for good and push everything you've got to the consumers. If we get one disc, one CD, it'll have to stand to unbearable scrutiny and the sales of the follow-ups greatly depend upon the general response to that one, ever-evading disc.
Three albums at once would take everyone by storm, would out-do the UYI's regarding the amount of discs, and might alleviate the public reaction as to what the hell Ax's been up to all these years. Singular tracks / discs might get it easier if people'd suddenly have a whole slew of material to digest. Geffen could ride the wave and collect their $13M from the collective sales of all three discs (and their 'special editions' - vinyls[?]) - and just sit back and see what's going to happen after this sorry saga has been removed from accounting and filed into the history books.
Azoff and Axl would clear the table in one great sweep, Axl'd go out touring again with a great big back catalogue, keep going for a few years and then decide whether Irving should place a call for certain someones.
#172 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy release date? » 871 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Earl might not.
Is Earl still working for him though? That interview with Eddie Truck seemed to be in the past tense. "You remember Earl, that body guard I used to have?"
Earl was last seen with Ax in 2003, I believe.
#173 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Interview with Slash in 1995 » 871 weeks ago
That Duff bit seems to be from late 1993, when he was out promoting Believe in Me. It appears to be an excerpt from this vid (don't have the audio right now, so can't be sure).
#174 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Interview with Slash in 1995 » 871 weeks ago
Thanks Aussie,
I've been looking for that recently. Saw a link at another forum some months ago, but before I got around to it, it was deleted! Thank you, Google, I really appreciated that!
#175 Re: 1996 » 1996: Chinese Whispers » 872 weeks ago
Party's over
The plans for the new album were altered, and a decision was made to start again from a different angle.
"I am [in GNR] & everything is going to be cool as far as that is concerned. [...] Guns is doing a record so of course Matt & I will be in the studio for at least 3-4 weeks in February. [...] We have song titles, but no album title. I don't want to let the cat out of the bag. [...] We progress naturally. As far as the rumor that one person wants us to change, that's just not true." (Duff chat, 12/17/96)
"[The 1996 tracks are] not something I would want to approach (without Slash), because, at the time, there was only one person that I knew who could do certain riffs that way. [...] That's the reason why that material got scrapped." (Axl, press release, 08/14/02)
#176 Re: 1995 » 1995: Chinese Whispers » 872 weeks ago
Big Deal
On 09/11/95, twelve days after Axl'd sent out his letter, Duff and Matt begun appearing at the Viper Room on a weekly basis with Steve Jones and John Taylor.
"After we played a string of Viper Room gigs and a few national gigs [from early January to 02/10/96], record companies started pursuing us. I was dumbfounded. We were just having a laugh, after all. In the end, Madonna’s label, Maverick, gave us a million-dollar advance. This was four times what Guns got!" (Duff, autobiography)
"'Someone at Maverick was coming to the shows and told us he wanted to make a record,' says Taylor. 'It wasn't really anything that we had talked about as a group.'" (John Taylor, Hypno Magazine, 1996)
"We went out and we secured a million-dollar record deal, just out playing the Viper Room every Monday night." (Duff, Frontline, 02/06/04)
During this time, the album work was apparently grounded.
Axl would've been holding out on the next GNR album to be written and recorded under the new partnership agreement, effective as of 12/31/95. All the while, Duff and Matt were busy until February, anyway.
--
In related news, David Geffen, founder of Geffen Records, ended his term in the company. MCA Records had acquired the company in 1990 and since then, Geffen himself had been contractually employed. His leaving coincided with Seagram Company acquiring 80% of MCA/Geffen and finding Universal Studios and Universal Music Group. Geffen Records was maintained under the UMG umberella.
#177 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 872 weeks ago
Close, but...
Axl composes a lot on the piano, and as Chris put it, also strummed guitar at that point.
Dizzy was the main keyboardist.
Stuart White is an FX guy, and likely worked on OMG and Live Era as a temporary recruit.
Howerdel started as the guitar tech but soon became Axl's personal assistant / computer tech.
Pitman would've therefore inherited Howerdel's place as the band's programmer.
#178 Re: Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 872 weeks ago
James,
Go to his site and you can stream some LUSK, as well as other works.
--
I have a feeling Pitman came down through Billy Howerdel. They're both Tool alumni, so it'd make sense. Also, I understand Howerdel was working with GNR around the time when Pitman was initially approached (early '98).
#179 Guns N' Roses » Pitmans official website opened » 872 weeks ago
- sic.
- Replies: 45
The News section is still behind a login, but the Music section is open for public.
Interesting tidbit about GNR, Neemo.
Since the time of Lusk, I became involved with the numerous publishing companies here in LA that would pair songwriters together for recording projects, these included EMI, Rondor/Famous music, Sony and others. I was writing songs for a few artists like Jezef C. as well as writing the single for Blinker the Stars record for Dreamworks. In fact it was at Ocean Way Studios with Jordan recording 'Below the Sliding doors' when I got the call from GNR. This was May 1998, and I had a friend who was working with Guns at the time.
Several months earlier, i had been invited down to their studio to meet and hang out with the guys, the purpose being, as he explained, they were looking for a producer or collaborator, and someone to bring some 'modern' sounds to the mix.
He said that Axl was a fan of LUSK and was really into the wierd guitar sounds, and Orchestration we did. There i met Axl, who was very gracious, respectful dude with that larger-than-life persona he's got, and would make you feel like you had been part of the family for years. We sat in the control room all night listening to tons of songs and jam tapes that they were working on. Axl, along with Paul Tobias and Dizzy Reed were the core writers of the band at the time, and were writing some incredible stuff, you could tell they were in the right place exploring and reaching for the stars, so to speak.
There was a good vibe there, a creative atmosphere, and enough can't be said about the good people that Paul and Dizzy are.
Axl was playing a lot of lead guitar and experimenting with sounds, and was a damn creative player. Occasionally he would pipe in 'you hear that Lusk guitar there?!!'
Being from the Kansas City myself, we shared common midwest stories and blunders, not to mention he has a million jokes up his sleeves, he would just leave you gutted. We had a good time hanging out, and spirits were quite jovial at the time.
At the end of the night, or morning shall i say, Axl piped out "you know..ive already got a full band, but would like to figure out some way of working you in" "cool, sounds good, give me a buzz!"
about a month later i got the buzz, 'hey, me and sean are just finishing up putting a studio together up in Axl's guest house, and he wants you to come hang out", "yeah...and do what exactly?!" "you know..just do what you do, recording, playing whatever!" "cool....when do you want to do this?" "you can come up tonite if you want to hang"
Interesting...
#180 Re: Guns N' Roses » First single is If The World? (theory) » 872 weeks ago
Jackamo from the erstwhile Eat My Silk Worms always insisted that Ax and Pitman wrote a number of songs on acoustics (here), which in this case should probably be translated as beats and loops and some melodies which were then put into the Pro Tools melting pot.
But ITW always sounded a very Pitman-ish song to me. I recently saw a documentary on Jay Z, in which they discussed Can I Live from Reasonable Doubt. It had the Isaac Hayes track The Look of Love sampled in to create the underlying beat and the next time I got around listening to ITW, it really felt it was created in a similar fashion to Can I Live.
Knowing Pitman, I would not be surprised if the song would indeed be credited between him and Ax.