Because 'not having to feel uncomfortable' is not an inalienable right, having the freedom to express yourself is. I feel uncomfortable around people that wear bolo ties and cowboy hats, still no reason to ban them.

*edit* and for the record, I am not calling anyone racist or bigoted, I really do understand that feeling uncomfortable with certain things is a perfectly acceptable and natural reaction. It just doesn't give you the right to stop other people from doing what they want to do.

The definition of mainstream always changes over time, and it always irks some people when it does. Lots of things that were shocking 30 years ago are absolutely completely normal today. You can debate on whether or not those change are for the better, but that debate is always going to be subjective. So no, I don't think there's a hard line that persists throughout time, there's only a line (and a fuzzy one at that) that defines what is currently acceptable. The only objective metric I can think of is that you're free to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't impact anyone who's unwilling to participate. In other words rape will always be objectively bad, but consenting sodomy is not.

Worrying about the safety of your children isn't a straw man, but saying that one of the problems of gender fluidity is that you can't know whether a person using the bathroom with your 12 year old daughter is a man or woman is the very definition of a straw man. The argument is designed to distract you away from the fact that even today you can't tell sexual orientation by looks, and it has always been that way. I wouldn't have wanted Michael Jackson in a boy's bathroom knowing his tendencies, but I wouldn't generalize that into a law that forbids male pop singers with high pitched voices from using the men's room either.

I know you didn't, I was trying to get ahead of you in the discussion and I shouldn't have put words in your mouth. I apologize for that. But the 'bathroom' argument is the most popular argument used to defend the discriminatory legislation they're trying to put in place in certain states and I assumed that's what you were referring to when you mentioned 'bathroom problems' in your original post. I shouldn't have assumed .

But you still haven't raised a single real issue that arises from giving transgenders the freedom to use the bathroom of their choice. The only thing you've raised is that it bothers you that they're doing it "in your face" and that your aunt now wears cheeky T-shirts with social justice warrior slogans on them. Is that really reason enough for you to limit these people's rights? I get that you don't like it, I wouldn't either. I do not get why that should be a factor in deciding where they can take a piss though.

Look, I'm against positive discrimination, I feel strongly that the whole third wave feminism movement, the atheist-plus movement, the black lives matter movement, etc... are extremely counter productive as well as sexist, racist and bigoted. I mock them, I revile their rhetoric and I think they're doing real damage to our society. I also think that they should have the utter and complete freedom to feel, think and say what they like. No matter how distasteful I might think it is, they have the right to offend me.

Look at it from a different angle. I think most would agree that the nazi school of thought is one of the most dangerous in the world, and yet holocaust denial is not illegal in the US. I'm sure we'll all agree that a lot of people are offended and concerned by those thoughts and the way these people dress; and probably won't feel safe if they end up in the same bathroom with a bunch of skinheads. Yet, there are no laws against piercings, shaving your head, getting swastika tattoos and dressing up in Nazi uniforms. That's what the "land of the free" is supposed to be about, yet somehow when it comes to people's private parts or their sex lives half the country feels like this shit needs to be regulated, their freedom of speech and self-expression limited? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

If I were to guess, I'd say it'd be in the same vein as Madagascar, or the intro to TWAT... so likely orchestral.

This is the important bit, right here. If Brian continues to claim he's still fit to perform, Axl will have to do the smart thing and step back.