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#18041 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

JB, its the times we are living in. Even quality albums aren't doing well. There's too many free downloaders.

CD could be the best album this decade and it could still have trouble reaching gold status. Millions could be listening but it never translate into huge album sales.

#18042 Re: The Garden » House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski *Book Review/SPOILERS* » 935 weeks ago

I might have to download some of those tracks.

#18043 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

NY Giants82 wrote:

I think it would have an initial strong surge in sales, but it may drop real quick as well.

We definitely agree on that. I would wager it gets 80% of its sales the first week and tanks after that. If it has a killer 1st single, sales might stay steady for a couple more weeks.

#18044 Re: The Sunset Strip » Lindsey Lohan broke » 935 weeks ago

I think Hollywood has learned a lesson from the Lohan fiasco. Just because some kids get their first hard on over some airhead actress and some bloggers post about hating her, it does not mean that actress deserves huge salaries and starring roles.

She was never as popular as the media tried to claim she was. Awhile back I posted at another site the statistics that some media company released about various worldwide magazines. When Lohan or Hilton were on the cover of any magazine, sales dropped around 40%. No increase. A massive drop. That would certainly explain why Maxim did not put her on their cover of the last Hot 100 issue even though they gave her the number one spot on their Hot List. They didn't want a huge drop in sales.

I've been saying it for ages, but I seriously think the attention whore era that people like Hilton, Lohan,etc. started is coming to an end. The studios are tired of losing money on these people. If they want to risk money, they know they can take a chance on new talent.

#18045 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

NY Giants82 wrote:

The Greatest Hits album sold pretty well.

Yeah, and it was an album that only had tracks from the 87-93 era. Everyone knew that, and people bought it to add to their collection. The fact that the disc was 5 and 6 bucks everywhere most definitely helped sales.

#18046 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

There's no doubt anymore that it wont outsell Contraband. Downloading wasn't as out of control when CB was released. I dont remember the exact sales figures(not much of a VR fan), but didn't CB sell around 3 million copies? No way in hell will CD even come close to that. Thats nothing against GNR by saying that. Its reality. A band of men approaching fifty who haven't released anything is not going multi platinum. Even the name doesn't guarantee huge sales anymore. The name only guarantees a few articles in the media.

I would love to be proven wrong and CD somehow take off when its released, but I seriously don't see the record venturing any further than gold territory. With the right single it might hit platinum.

#18047 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

on a side note....i wonder if they will redefine the levels of album certification hmm

Thats something that seriously needs to be taken into consideration. Things are so bad, I think Gold status should change from 500,000 copies to 50,000. M.I.A. had huge media interest and a successful tour and Kala just dropped off the Billboard 200 with around 80,000 sold. I think in this era it is definitely worthy of gold status. Had the album been released in the 90's it would have went platinum.


Brokenglass, thats a big assumption that MTV will push this album. It might, but no way in hell will GNR get a ton of rotation on MTV. At the most they will get some promo on their website and maybe an award nomination at the VMA's. As far as Loder goes, he no longer cares.

I've been saying this for years, but I think Axl and the GNR camp should try and get a huge push on Fuse. I think that would translate into more album sales because the people watching MTV are not going to drive to a record store and buy Chinese Democracy. They wont even buy the albums from the artists MTV shoves down their throats and they claim to love, but you think they're gonna buy an album made by a guy approaching 50? Not likely.

#18048 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » VR - Why the Sophomore Slump? » 935 weeks ago

There's going to be a LOT of "wheezing balloons" this decade. The music era we live in is unprecedented. There's a ton of bands in different genres all fighting for the small pie known as people who buy music. Without album sales able to gauge the interest in artists, and the huge tours becoming extinct, everything is upside down. You have huge bands like VR having low sales and little media interest, and artists like MIA getting tons of media attention yet very little record sales. Top sellers are Disney fads and other flavor of the month shit selling a max of 2 or 3 million copies. In 2007 and beyond, you can enter the Billboard top 20 by selling 10,000 copies. Thats insane. At that rate, no band can ever become dominant because they are always being pushed down the totem pole by the next artist to sell ten thousand albums. Its bizarre.

The days of Joe Public walking into a record store and buying several cds are long gone. You are lucky if you can even pay Joe Public to go within a mile of a record store, and if he does, he'll buy one album and its likely something he liked in his youth.

Also, the days of people sitting around talking about the hot new band are over as well. There's too many bands out there for a specific band/artist to gain a real buzz.

The industry is in chaos.

#18049 Re: Guns N' Roses » Libertad Fails - Will nuGNR follow? » 935 weeks ago

CD will likely follow the same course as VR did, although Cd sales might be a little bit better. The album isn't going to set the world on fire. The era we live in will prevent that, even if its a masterpiece. If Axl was looking for huge record sales, he should have followed through back in the 01-02 time period. In 2008 he will be lucky if the album reaches gold status. The media is going to decide how this album does. If the media doesn't push the album, it will be lucky to sell 100,000 copies.

They have to hit a grand slam with the opening single.


Russ, alot of people use the term 'nu' or 'new' when talking about the current lineup. Its a way to differentiate between the two. Even Axl referred to them as that on the Trunk show.

#18050 Re: The Garden » The NFL Yahoo Pick Em League Thread » 935 weeks ago

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