The last few elections have told us…that these people don’t matter.  There have been some god awful ones and they don’t move the needle at all.  It’s all on the President pick at this point.  I mean that’s clear to me .  It might as well be a cutout and you’d get the same benefit.

I give you props on this .  I think she fucked up on the economy/inflation too. Everyone can understand that their (insert essential item here ) went up 5-10x as opposed to when Trump was in there .

You can say the economy is fine but you better be able to explain how you are going to fix that or why it went up so drastically.

Good question.  Ultimately in the end I don’t think it mattered if neither candidate was going to pull in the younger minority vote.

I mean Biden had his issues too. They would blasted him with old out of touch guy stuff.   He maybe wins a bit more votes . 

I’m dreading them putting RFK in an HHS Secretary role though, he belongs nowhere near that.

I lean left but agree with most of this. Democrats are lucky actually, the woke stuff was minor because Trump (and Vance) kept on giving them campaign ad material on a weekly basis it seemed.

It should have been a fucking wake up when Dick Cheney of all people endorsed Harris.  Deep down inside I think most non wingbat Republicans want him to lose and go away. They can’t win or even plot a new messsage because the guy takes up all the fucking oxygen in the room when he speaks.

They also fucked up big time in assessing the results in 2016 and beyond. It wasn’t really a movement or a shift ; it was a one off that they got lucky and stars aligned. After he loss in 20, should have replaced him.

What they need to do is to find someone that sounds reasonable who can be the face of the party (short or long term).  And find a woman who understand their (GOP women) concerns.  Because I bet there are going to be a ton of crossover votes just because they feel their issues aren’t being addressed or listened to.

Yeah, Biden dropping out was the worst thing that happened to Trump.  If they lose, it’ll mostly be a referendum on how shitty Trump is as a candidate and their message.  A lot of this has absolutely nothing to do with Harris, Democrats or even progressive issues . My personal opinion as a whole the probably moderate or slightly leans right when it comes to social issues.

They also need to find better people to deliver the message. I mean Vance and the
Haitians eating cats bullshit , how does that even pass the smell test?

They also have a problem attracting women voters at this point.  Part of this is Trump.  Part of this is the message that comes out( Again some of the Vance stuff didn’t help at all) and a part of this is the abortion issue.  Whatever your feelings on it, it seems that the GOP is in opposition to what the general consensus is.  I mean these initiatives either keep on passing (or fail) in these states (red or blue).

Yeah, they need to do a reckoning and just figure out a strategy that appeals to all regardless of gender or race.  Alienating almost every non -white voting block isn’t a winning strategy.  For whatever one thought of W, he did try to broaden the voter base and be inclusive .  They seemed to have gone back to the stone ages with Trump.

Also not noted here but if he loses on the GOTV on Tuesday (basically the non early vote), he’s only got himself to blame.  He installed some neophyte to run it while dismantling the state infrastructure that had been set up.