dave-gnfnr wrote:

Also, listening to the isolated vocal on The General it sounds like to me someone, maybe the leaker messed with the chorus, it seems way too off to be that bad of a mix, espeically if its from a 99-04 demo, no demos from those are mixed this bad.

I think someone went in and put tons of reverb and turned the sound way up on those parts to mess with the leak, so the leakers still have a prestine version for trade.

I can definitely see that being the case but if it were, they could have certainly done A LOT more than muffling the chorus.

Someone should make a poll for whether or not we think Slash and Duff are on these songs. I initially thought they were but not so sure anymore.

(I’d make the poll but doing so on mobile seems like a pain.)

dave-gnfnr wrote:

Shacklermyrye wrote:

I'm working on them a bit yeah. I'm not trying to do some mad mashup though and i don't really want to throw loads of fan mixes of these songs online. All i'm really trying to change is bring the strings up a bit, lower the guitars in places, & center Axl's vocals so that there not panned all over the place. It's actually been easier to clean up beltrami's stuff from the live intro than from these leaks. It may actually be easier to isolate them from live performances of the songs (if they ever play them).

Without doing a mashup, the only thing you really need to do is fix Axls vocals on The General so they dont go so loud on the chorus.

I'm going to do that and remove the vocals at the end. I have also put the trumpets back in (badapplesforum will be thrilled) Ending sounds much better with less vocals.

dave-gnfnr wrote:

BLS-Pride wrote:

I can't decide if you're a troll or just that thick.

Oh I think he is that troll who goes on every youtube video is talks about how good Robin is

Robin is good. If you don't think Robin is good, then I can't take what you think seriously.

BLS-Pride wrote:

monsterscantkillme wrote:

The AXL vocal take on Perhaps is completely different from the demo. The guitars on Perhaps are completely different from the demo. I assume it'll be the same pattern for The General and Monsters on the vinyl. These are CD era demos. I've heard Slither. I've seen its music video too. i don't hear Slither on The General or Monsters. I hear CD era sounds and NIN industrial influenced sounds on them. Slither and The General and Monsters are two different worlds apart.

It's Axl not AXL. Dont gotta yell his name everytime. He wont hear you. The vocal take is the same on perhaps. Listen again and then again if needed.

Okay. Listen to how Axl sings the lyrics up to the chorus and then with the chorus on Perhaps as compared to its demo. The chorus is different from the demo. Axl's singing is different from the demo. Listen how Axl sings the word hey hey. He doesn't sing hey hey like that on the demo. You can tell the Axl vocal is 2019 to present while the Axl vocal on the demo you can tell is 1999 vocals. And then listen to the ending of Perhaps with Axl. That ending isn't on the demo. A Robin Finck outro is on the demo. That's missing from the Slash version. Axl completely reworked the song vocally. I believe Axl has done the same vocal reworking on The General/Monsters vinyl. The Axl vocals on The General/Monsters isn't 2019 to present. It's more likely 2004-2006 vocals. Raw vocals. Axl doesn't have that vocal in him today. You'll hear a big vocal difference on the vinyl as compared to these CD era demos of The General/Monsters.