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#201 Re: Guns N' Roses » Commissioner, Women’s Shelter Call GN'R Concerts Ads 'Inappropriate' » 715 weeks ago

Ali
buzzsaw wrote:
Ali wrote:
-D- wrote:

shocker

Nothing to do with symbolism, D.  It has to do with trying to make a poor analogy between some scene that could never, ever happen in the real world and something that has happened many times historically, and could still happen, and the appropriateness or lack thereof.

Ali

Ask a woman that has been raped if it matters what is doing the raping, then get back to me.

O.k., only if you first ask a black man that has had family members experience violence driven by racism or experienced it themselves if there is a difference between the offensiveness of a completely fictitious cartoon painting and a scene depicting a black man being hung and get back to me.:thumbup:

Ali

#202 Re: Guns N' Roses » Commissioner, Women’s Shelter Call GN'R Concerts Ads 'Inappropriate' » 715 weeks ago

Ali
-D- wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Symbolism is completely lost on Ali.


shocker

Nothing to do with symbolism, D.  It has to do with trying to make a poor analogy between some scene that could never, ever happen in the real world and something that has happened many times historically, and could still happen, and the appropriateness or lack thereof.

Ali

#203 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose - USA Today interviews » 715 weeks ago

Ali
buzzsaw wrote:
Ali wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I'm pretty confident Ali is a girl.  I'm not the only one.

You've been corrected on this on multiple occasions.  And in making the above statement, you are either a) either intentionally or not, proving ID's point, or b) genuinely forgetful. 

Ali

I just don't believe you.  That doesn't make me a liar, that makes you an untrustworthy source.

What you believe in this regard doesn't matter.  The truth is the truth irrespective of your belief on a black or white matter such as this.  The fact that you've been corrected again here and continue down this path certainly doesn't do anything to disprove what ID said above.

Ali

#204 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose - USA Today interviews » 715 weeks ago

Ali
buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I don't have to worry about it.  I'm never wrong...things change.  wink

If it wasn't published, it wasn't written for GnR...it was written.  End of story.

I could let this slide as Buzz being Buzz, and it's just your personality or perhaps "character" to be stubborn, arrogant and flat out dishonest when it comes to you being wrong. All and all, I usually take it as being half hearted and playful on your part. But the Ali he/she thing is bullshit, man.

I'm pretty confident Ali is a girl.  I'm not the only one.

You've been corrected on this on multiple occasions.  And in making the above statement, you are either a) either intentionally or not, proving ID's point, or b) genuinely forgetful. 

Ali

#205 Re: Guns N' Roses » Commissioner, Women’s Shelter Call GN'R Concerts Ads 'Inappropriate' » 715 weeks ago

Ali
-D- wrote:

SO if someone paints a picture of a black guy being lynched, it would be ok cause its art?

Cmon now.

You really think that's an apt comparison?

Let's see, what has occurred in the real world or is more likely to occur in the real world?  A black man being lynched, or a robot in a trench coat standing over a woman with her panties down while a monster with multiple hands and a row of knives attached to it flies over a fence?

Ali

#206 Re: Guns N' Roses » Commissioner, Women’s Shelter Call GN'R Concerts Ads 'Inappropriate' » 715 weeks ago

Ali
RussTCB wrote:
-D- wrote:

Huge difference in something "Legal" there which is prostitution and a violent depiction of Rape and or battery of women.

Prostitution is not legal in Clark County, but they allow advertising like the above insinuating otherwise.

I just recalled that and was going to post that, but you beat me to it.

Ali

#207 Re: Guns N' Roses » Commissioner, Women’s Shelter Call GN'R Concerts Ads 'Inappropriate' » 715 weeks ago

Ali
RussTCB wrote:
Cramer wrote:

Well it's kinda tough to argue against her POV. It's not a very tasteful picture.

I guess I'm just curious as to what high moral ground the commissioner is standing on given everything that's condoned in Vegas.

Yeah, no shit.  Any city where they hand out cards for porn as you walk up and down the strip is not exactly a shining beacon for tastefulness.

Ali

#208 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago

Ali
faldor wrote:
Ali wrote:
-D- wrote:

If he is sick, then should've done something easier like Brownstone instead of Better etc.

Of course if the 2nd night was better, 'Im assuming he got magically cured in one day.

I don't mind Axl missing a lyric or being off key here n there but god damn, his voice sounds tiny, helium filled and just bad on that first night.

Now this doesn't mean the band is over or he has lost it. ony he has done fuck all since tour ended.

Magically cured?  No, I don't think that's possible.  But, antibiotics can improve your symptoms, even if it doesn't make you completely asymptomatic, or shorten your acute symptomatic period quite a bit.  Nothing magical about that.

Ali

Right.  Let's not forget Slash had to cancel a show recently because Myles was sick but was "magically cured" the next day and able to perform on Conan.

I agree that the "sickness" excuse, is just that, an excuse.  Obviously, in a perfect world, nobody would get sick, and they'd perform at optimal levels all the time.  Life doesn't work that way.  So while I don't think they're lying by saying Axl was sick the other night, or at Rio, it doesn't totally discount the performance. 

Regardless, enough harping on one bad night.  Let's move on.  Good things lay ahead, and that's where the focus should be.

I don't think it's just an excuse, as in it could not have been a contributing factor.  After seeing/hearing him last night, I find it entirely plausible that he is still recovering from being ill and that can and would be a factor in trying to sing.  If your throat is in physical discomfort, singing will be more difficult, same as if your ability to take in enough air to support your voice is compromised.  But, yes, there may have been more to the first night than that, as evidenced by the lyrical/vocal flub during WTTJ.

Regardless, let's move on.  The fact that to me at least there was a clear improvement in his performance in less than 24 hours says to me that the vultures need to find a different person to circle, as this is no carcass and Axl is alive and well and moving forward with touring plans.

Ali

#209 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago

Ali
-D- wrote:

If he is sick, then should've done something easier like Brownstone instead of Better etc.

Of course if the 2nd night was better, 'Im assuming he got magically cured in one day.

I don't mind Axl missing a lyric or being off key here n there but god damn, his voice sounds tiny, helium filled and just bad on that first night.

Now this doesn't mean the band is over or he has lost it. ony he has done fuck all since tour ended.

Magically cured?  No, I don't think that's possible.  But, antibiotics can improve your symptoms, even if it doesn't make you completely asymptomatic, or shorten your acute symptomatic period quite a bit.  Nothing magical about that.

Ali

#210 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago

Ali
-D- wrote:
faldor wrote:
-D- wrote:

If his symptoms weren't bad then, that just further proves he was more Unprepared than anything else.

Axl has shown a pattern of this. So thats why I don't give him benefit of the doubt. Wasn't he "sick" or something at RIR4? I can't remember.

Not saying I hate Axl now or am no longer a fan. I'm sure by Oct 31st, he will have it together but I like to call a spade a spade. People on here trying their best "Spin" and I say, just call it what it was. no big deal.

Yeah, Beta was at Axl's defense on HTGTH today.  She said Axl did have a 104 degree temperature at RIR, and brought up a myriad of other factors.  I get the frustration.  There are always excuses.  It's a case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf.  After awhile, people don't want to hear it anymore, or just flat out don't believe it.  And unfortunately, that's the case we have here.  I believe Axl probably wasn't at 100% health, but deep down that wasn't the overriding factor for his struggles that night.  Sure it may have played a part, but there's always more to it than that. 

Regardless, it was a great cause and now the show must go on.  To Vegas! 9


I think its exaggerated. u couldn't walk with a 104 degree temp let a lone perform.

I agree that's not possible, but I'm guessing what was meant that at some point during the time in Rio for RIR4, he had a high fever.

Ali

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