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#201 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago

Rocket Queen 87 wrote:

He's such a perfectionist!!

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Welcome to the forum.



Russy1980 wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:
Russy1980 wrote:

Listened last week. Thank you to the forum member who shared them.

I thought Monsters was pretty solid. Would've worked on ChiDem, but now I'd rather just have a straight ahead rock song from them.

As for The General... perhaps the saddest thing, is finding out that during the years when GN'R fans were being starved of new music and also being denied a reunion, that this is what he was doing in the studio.

the funny thing is, the music on all the leaks and village sessions is really great
the weak link on most of the songs is axls lyrics and voice

This. Yes! I remember saying this at Rock In Rio 2001! I waited up to watch, already decided I hated the new band (cuz Slash), and by the end of the show I thought that Axl had been the weak link in the performance.

I bet you hated the next 20 years because Rio 2001 was new GNR's peak.

#202 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago

darknemus wrote:
Miguelox26 wrote:

I always thought that the leaks of better, irs, there was a time and the subsequent ones were leaked from within in order to promote the material and see how the fans reacted, the record company was not clear about the sales, they delayed as much as they could. album and re-recorded it until they dared to release it, also a possible meeting with slash, that was the intention of the label, manager and promoters. Even village and the storage room, but that was coincidental, not premeditated like these leaks. And the same day that the general had to be published is leaked along with another unreleased song, the same bogus operandi!

I can say definitively in the case of IRS that this isn't accurate. There was a panicfest of epic proportions when it occurred and radio stations across the country (that were literally operated by robots overnight during that Trunk show broadcast) had people getting called in / woken up to go to the stations and ENSURE tapes were erased, etc. This was especially a 'thing' when it came to stations under the clear channel corporate umbrella. The satellite upfeed for Trunk's show was basically edited in real time for the repeat to ensure that not only was the song gone but any damn mention of it / reactions to it were as well - there was some serious chaos that occurred at more than a few radio stations when all that happened.

Now, do I believe Piazza's story about a random CD in his mail? Not necessarily - but I don't think for a moment that leak was intentional (as in, done by the band or the label) - you have to go by the immediate reactions that occurred at the time. Some people deserve Oscars if it was all an act.

You want an indication of how hardcore the reaction was? There were a lot of people in this country at the time who taped / traded radio shows.. (Trunk's show.. Dr. Demento.. Coast to Coast.. etc etc) - this is in the earlyish days of them evolving to doing that sharing over the Internet.. (I'm talking people with garages FULL of DAT tapes labeled like 'Coast To Coast 11-15-98 - Host: Art Bell' and everything else.)

Try talking to those people and finding a copy of that Trunk show.. good f'n luck - because OMG did I go through the effort at the time.. let's just say, due to my experiences at the time - I'm more than 80% convinced at least some people were paid to ensure those tapes don't exist.

Still boggles my mind how f'n QUICK they reponded to what happened, too - Minutes.. not hours.. Just another chapter in the less than normal that is this band.. lolz.

Yeah that whole thing is bat shit crazy.

The sick thing about it is how they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The 2003 IRS thing was a huge story. GNR could've easily capitalized on the situation. That should've instantly been placed on the launch pad as a single.

Instead they did everything in their power to destroy that killer buzz.

#203 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Shirt » 86 weeks ago

It does bring up a good question...

Does anyone still have any of the 2002 merch?

#204 Re: Guns N' Roses » Oh My God Question » 86 weeks ago

Scabbie wrote:

I can't find OMG on Spotify. Why wouldn't it be on there?

Some sort of rights issue with the label/soundtrack?

#205 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 86 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Watching “Smile” and my suspension of disbelief can only go so far…

Yeah that was a HUGE disappointment.

It starts out with a bang. It feels like you're in for a real treat. I love the scene at the birthday party when the present is being opened. Creepy with loads of tension. It needed more of that. Instead it went down the tubes shortly after.

#206 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Beatles to release “Now and Then”” » 86 weeks ago

Not bad at all. Actually it's probably the best of the three songs.

They should probably redo the other two songs. It would be an improvement.

elevendayempire wrote:
James wrote:

Had it not been for George Harrison shit canning the idea due to tensions with McCartney, this song would've been finished and released during the Anthology series in the late 90s.

IIRC it wasn't just creative tension, Harrison recognised that the audio quality of the source material just wasn't up to snuff.

We had heard this one before and all three were terrible quality. If he had an issue with one, why not the others?

They probably shouldn't have released any of them at the time. The tech just wasn't there yet.

They needed something to sell Anthology so went ahead with it.

Wasn't the original idea creating brand new Threetles songs but he shit canned that too?

Ive only watched that once eons ago. The tension between the two is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

I think there was briefly some talks of an Anthology type project when Lennon was still alive that would probably happen in the early 80s. It's tragic how it all played out. A reunion was likely in the cards.







elevendayempire wrote:

I wonder if Macca's going to get Peter Jackson to use the same whizzy AI tech he used to extract Lennon's vocal for "Now and Then" and apply it to "Free As a Bird" and "Real Love." The shitty tape quality of Lennon's vocals on those always rankled, though I suppose you could argue that it gave him an appropriately ghostly quality.

Yes. It's practically a guarantee.

A rerelease of the Anthology series is speculated by fans to be one of their next big projects and redoing the two tracks would be a huge selling point...as well as any unseen footage.

#207 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

That was his moment ^^

Yeah.

Still young enough to tackle all these songs.

We had to wait until he was in his 60s for any of the second half of Chinese to be performed.

#208 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:
James wrote:
AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.

Holy shit.

That's almost as bad as Bobby Blotzer giving platinum albums to his entire scab RATT lineup a few years ago.


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Megadeth recently did something similar with their current lineup for one of their classic albums. Did the whole photo opp thing with the current band.

Edit: sweet scarf Bobby! Lololol


Surely these are all replicas of some sort. I can't imagine these guys being issued real platinum album awards.

I also had no idea it happens this often. God only knows how many times we don't know about.

#209 Re: The Garden » Bobby Knight dead at 83 » 86 weeks ago

Yeah just saw that. RIP

Just about all the iconic coaches are gone now.

Never understood why he didn't coach in the NBA after his firing in Indiana.


Same with Mike Krzyzewski.

#210 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 86 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.

Holy shit.

That's almost as bad as Bobby Blotzer giving platinum albums to his entire scab RATT lineup a few years ago.


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