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#211 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

Jesus wtf.
https://twitter.com/jpegjoshua/status/1268719321662001164?s=20

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Further update: Two officers have been fired over the incident.

The rest of the response team has resigned over the firings.  Not their jobs as police apparently, just the response team role.  Honestly I don't blame them.  That job sucks.

#212 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

That’s fine if that’s how you interpreted my posts but in this case i asked the original poster if i had misinterpreted his original question...i don’t know what else you want from me. I have him a chance to tell me if i has made any sort of mistakes in interpreting his OP. He expressed that i had not.

You weren't responding to his original question mitch.  You were responding to my post that had nothing to do with you and very little to do with the original question. 

Why do you not understand how obtuse you are?  You try to change the discussion, argue for 3 pages that you didn't, and when forced to see you did, you changed it to the you were just answering the original question and not the one you actually replied to like you're just getting beaten on for nothing.  No, you're getting beaten on for doing what you always do.

This is exactly what you do.  Stop.

We’re going in circles on this...i asked him if i was still addressing his OP. He said yes.

End of story.

YOU WEREN'T RESPONDING TO HIM MITCH, YOU WE'RE RESPONDING TO ME.

End of mutherfucking story.  You are worthless and I will no longer waste my time on you.  Don't respond to any post I make.  You don't even exist any more.

#213 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

That’s fine if that’s how you interpreted my posts but in this case i asked the original poster if i had misinterpreted his original question...i don’t know what else you want from me. I have him a chance to tell me if i has made any sort of mistakes in interpreting his OP. He expressed that i had not.

You weren't responding to his original question mitch.  You were responding to my post that had nothing to do with you and very little to do with the original question. 

Why do you not understand how obtuse you are?  You try to change the discussion, argue for 3 pages that you didn't, and when forced to see you did, you changed it to the you were just answering the original question and not the one you actually replied to like you're just getting beaten on for nothing.  No, you're getting beaten on for doing what you always do.

This is exactly what you do.  Stop.

#214 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

Not only do you do this over and over, you then go out of your way for 3 pages to justify your actions.  Just stop.  The question isn't did you do it.  You did.  The question is can you stop doing it so I don't have to keep telling you...

...have a nice day mitch.

#215 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Why does it matter...you can dismiss it mattering or not...the conversation was flowing in several direction. You can think that it doesn’t matter all you want. I do think it matters in the context of Irish’ original question.

It matters because I don't have to have the discussion you want me to have mitch.  I'm the "isolationist" as I believe you bitched about me being that's all for being out of all of those messes, so I'm certainly not interested in engaging in a discussion about why we are somewhere that we've been off and on for 30 years.  We're there.  If you want to discuss how to get out, GREAT, let's have that discussion.  If you want to cry about a Bush, do that with your therapist.

This is the first Bush is being mentioned. Again, the context was people trusting the government. I took that to mean understanding how we got here, in addition to solutions to figuring it out.

So even though I said (and I quote)...:

Regardless of why we were in the Middle East, just leaving wasn't an option.  Obama wanted to do it and knew he couldn't.

...you took that to mean I wanted to talk about how we got there?  Do you see why we have a problem mitch?

#216 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Go back and look...Irish asked specifically about Iraq and trusting the government. It has nothing to do with you.

Go back and look at the conversation I was having with Irish.  Tell me where I said anything to him about why we got into Iraq.  I'll be waiting...

Why does it matter...you can dismiss it mattering or not...the conversation was flowing in several direction. You can think that it doesn’t matter all you want. I do think it matters in the context of Irish’ original question.

It matters because I don't have to have the discussion you want me to have mitch.  I'm the "isolationist" as I believe you bitched about me being that's all for being out of all of those messes, so I'm certainly not interested in engaging in a discussion about why we are somewhere that we've been off and on for 30 years.  We're there.  If you want to discuss how to get out, GREAT, let's have that discussion.  If you want to cry about a Bush, do that with your therapist.

#217 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

You don't seem to understand that I don't have to have the conversation that you want me to and you don't get to make things up to drag me into the conversation that you want to have.  I've played that game with you too many times and I'm done.  So...

Have a nice day mitch.

#218 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Please explain how this applies to Iraq. Those aren’t the reasons we originally went there.

This is you wanting to make it about why we got into Iraq.

Go back and look...Irish asked specifically about Iraq and trusting the government. It has nothing to do with you.

Go back and look at the conversation I was having with Irish.  Tell me where I said anything to him about why we got into Iraq.  I'll be waiting...

#219 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Listen, I'd be thrilled to stay out of most of the international conflicts that we get into, so I'm certainly not an advocate of any of this.  But the reality is we are the free world's police force whether we like it or not.  That's why many of those countries don't spend like we do.  If we didn't, they'd have no choice but to spend more. 

People globally may view us negatively, but we get the first call from anyone facing issues they don't know how to solve regardless of what that issue is.  You cannot expect us to bail countries out when they are in trouble then expect us to walk away allowing whatever it was to happen again.  We're going to protect our interests.  You can't have one without the other.  Not the way things are now or have been since WWI.  Regardless of why we were in the Middle East, just leaving wasn't an option.  Obama wanted to do it and knew he couldn't.  If we're going to be everybody's big brother, there's a cost that goes along with it.

Please explain how this applies to Iraq. Those aren’t the reasons we originally went there.

It doesn't matter any more why we went there.  Get into reality mitch.  We're there.  We can't just leave and even your god Obama didn't just leave for a reason.  Stop and absorb that.  Life isn't fantasy land.  There are consequences for everything.  NOTHING comes without a cost and not all cost is financial cost.

This is me nicely telling you to piss off.

#220 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 264 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Listen, I'd be thrilled to stay out of most of the international conflicts that we get into, so I'm certainly not an advocate of any of this.  But the reality is we are the free world's police force whether we like it or not.  That's why many of those countries don't spend like we do.  If we didn't, they'd have no choice but to spend more. 

People globally may view us negatively, but we get the first call from anyone facing issues they don't know how to solve regardless of what that issue is.  You cannot expect us to bail countries out when they are in trouble then expect us to walk away allowing whatever it was to happen again.  We're going to protect our interests.  You can't have one without the other.  Not the way things are now or have been since WWI.  Regardless of why we were in the Middle East, just leaving wasn't an option.  Obama wanted to do it and knew he couldn't.  If we're going to be everybody's big brother, there's a cost that goes along with it.

Please explain how this applies to Iraq. Those aren’t the reasons we originally went there.

This is you wanting to make it about why we got into Iraq.

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