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#211 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the tour - Rules SG would have in place » 479 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Is this the faster tempo? It doesn't sound like Frank's the one pushing them to play faster.

I'm late, I can't see the first video anymore, but the second video starts when the song is already well on its way and I can't hear Slash coming in fast... Do you have another example?

More importantly though (PC doesn't suffer from being played a little bit quicker), in this second clip here, it seem like Slash is incredibly low in the mix, and Richard is fucking pitchy as hell on those bends... what's up with that?

#212 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the tour - Rules SG would have in place » 479 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Just watched this again and I think its killer. Slash is sloppy in the intro, he starts in fast, but it works. I seriously have no complaints. It didn't ruin my Christmas.

Not trying to be a contrarian, but Jungle is a very bad example. In this particular song, the tempo is pre-configured in his delay pedal/rack unit, it at the very least always starts at the same tempo.

#213 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 479 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:

Why the fuck did we have to see GN'R fall apart over creative differences when they could have just followed the AC/DC model and pumped out an Appetite clone 6-8 times over the last 20 years?

You'd want that?

Uhm, yes?

Well, to be precise I'd prefer the diversity of the three first albums.

#214 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the tour - Rules SG would have in place » 479 weeks ago

For what it's worth, it is perfectly feasible to mix in-ears and wedges in the same stage setup, depending on the preferences of the individual players.

#215 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the tour - Rules SG would have in place » 479 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Slash and Duff were in the above clip and it sounded fine. So the issue as to why we are not getting that sound lies with Fortus, Axl, and Frank?!?!

Did you see what I asked about monitors vs. in-ear above? Can you shed light?

In-ears provide for much better separation of the individual monitoring mixes, so in theory everyone should be able to hear what they need much better than with old-fashioned wedges. That means that no one would have the excuse of not hearing the other players well enough, or one instrument overpowering the others, and so again, in theory in-ear monitors should always work better.

However, it's feels completely different, playing with in-ears. You get a very rough mix directly into your ears and blocks out the sound of the stage. It kinda kills the live feeling a bit in my opinion. It' harder to get into 'the zone' that way, at least it was for me.

There's also a higher risk of the sound guy messing up. You typically have a dedicated monitor mix engineer on stage with you, and with wedges the guy has to do three, maybe four main mixes. With in-ears, every individual musician has their own mix, which adds to the complexity. Also, since it blocks out stage-noise, a mistake in an in-ear mix is often exaggerated due to the organic sound of the stage not being able to make for it.

I doubt it's in-ears vs. wedges though. It's just the drumming mostly.

#216 Re: Guns N' Roses » For the tour - Rules SG would have in place » 479 weeks ago

Yet everything I've seen is still way better than the previous incarnations of the band (including the old band). Yeah, the Conspirators were tight as fuck, but GNR today is actually still pretty damn good. But everything sounds so much tighter than in 2014, 2010 or 2006 (I'm guessing that's because they've toned down the wall of sound, with just two guitars and the keys being much lower in the mix).

The only complaint I really agree with is the tempo. Not only is almost everything too fast, it's also a bit inconsistent. It's not something that's easily fixed without going to a click-track though, and click-tracks SUCK live so no thanks... For what it's worth, our drummer was very consistent into a song, but often started a bit too fast or too slow, so we started our songs live with a clicktrack in the ear of the drummer, but he switched it off once the song got truly started.

Having said that, I wholeheartedly agree with CSS, you're overblowing the problem mate, it's really not that bad. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy the shows!

#217 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses: Coachella, April 16 » 480 weeks ago

Well, I'm 36, and I know Ice Cube, The Damned and Lush. All three of those were around in the 80's though...

#218 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses: Coachella, April 16 » 480 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

Set time unveiled. Ice Cube goes on right before GN'R.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-570e7a33/turb … 0/1100x619

Hah! I think I know maybe three other acts besides GNR by name in that pic... I'm not that old, am I? I at least know a lot of the bands touring the European festivals....

#219 Re: Guns N' Roses » Imagine an EP of the Slash versions of Chinese Democracy Songs » 480 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

New intro by Slash is very cool, but it doesn't alleviate any of the issues with the song.

I agree. I'd drop the old intro entirely (it's basically just the chorus anyway) and go from Slash's intro straight into the first verse.

Agreed, and they should come up with a new chorus, maybe something a bit more uptempo or energetic sounding. The Chorus (and former intro) of Better is awful and almost (but not quite) kills what would otherwise be an instant classic for me. I love the almost Izzy-sounding counter rhythm guitar work, love the metalesque bridge and I even dug the original Robin solo. I hope they give the song some more love.

Allthough I have to say, I'm glad that Axl doesn't sing the falsetto intro anymore (it's Duff now), that's at least an improvement.

#220 Re: Guns N' Roses » This I Love (guitar solo debate) » 480 weeks ago

TIL itself isn't worth the bits that it is encoded in, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. It's a fine line between a bitchy whiney and a NR-style 'epic'. This is so far over the line it's nothing but a speck compared to the songs it is trying to mimic.

Having said that, Robin's original solo sounds really bad to my ears, the off-rhythm sections (I know that's his trademark, and it's by design) just sound awkward and messy. Slash's improvised version isn't much to listen to either, but I suspect he'd do a better job on a studio version. People say he'd do an Estranged-style solo, but I think this song lacks the power for that. I think it'd be more like Street Child, which is also a sort of meandering song like TIL but one that actually nails the emotional vibe TIL is going for. And that has a kick-ass solo.

But more than anything, I'd rather they just drop the song... so I haven't voted.

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