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#211 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Ali wrote:Yes, no one said that. Just that there was a greater significance to these shows.
Ali
Nobody said it, but some insinuated. I can only wonder that some people need to see a benefit show to realize that other people are facing enormous and sometimes unbearable problems.
Anyway, back to the debate about the magical performance.
Beside Axl's utter shit singin', the players sounded good. Especially Bumble did a great job. I liked this version of Better instrumentally and Jungle had great musical moments, too. They could be an interesting band under different circumstances.People don't need to see a benefit show to realize it, but I think sometimes it helps to be reminded.
As for the performance, I think Jungle was just bad but some of the other tunes were good. The videos surfacing from Sunday night are getting better reviews than Saturday too.
Agreed. Nothing wrong with taking a step back and looking at the big picture, especially in this particular situation.
Ali
#212 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Watching the first night. It's awful. It can rival the Rio disaster. Axl sounds like a karaoke parody of himself. Retire or rehearse. (I don't care about the bullshit that I should be happy with the performance cause I'm alive and not in a hospital.)
I don't think anyone said you should be happy with the performance for that reason.
Yes, no one said that. Just that there was a greater significance to these shows.
Ali
#213 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
-D- wrote:If his symptoms weren't bad then, that just further proves he was more Unprepared than anything else.
Axl has shown a pattern of this. So thats why I don't give him benefit of the doubt. Wasn't he "sick" or something at RIR4? I can't remember.
Not saying I hate Axl now or am no longer a fan. I'm sure by Oct 31st, he will have it together but I like to call a spade a spade. People on here trying their best "Spin" and I say, just call it what it was. no big deal.
Yeah, Beta was at Axl's defense on HTGTH today. She said Axl did have a 104 degree temperature at RIR, and brought up a myriad of other factors. I get the frustration. There are always excuses. It's a case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. After awhile, people don't want to hear it anymore, or just flat out don't believe it. And unfortunately, that's the case we have here. I believe Axl probably wasn't at 100% health, but deep down that wasn't the overriding factor for his struggles that night. Sure it may have played a part, but there's always more to it than that.
Regardless, it was a great cause and now the show must go on. To Vegas!
I find it hard to believe that the illness would cause him to forget lyrics/sing the wrong melody. But, I do believe, that if he was in fact ill - which, in all honesty, no one is in a position to disprove - the quality of his voice or the ability to sing without discomfort would be compromised.
Ali
#214 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:gibbo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_lrF7RYGg
That sounds alright
Axl actually sounds like the older man there
He seems kinda nervous & awkward too??
Still, p magic seeing two of my fave rock stars on stage doin such a beautiful tune. Happy times.
love that song....pretty cool. Axl does sound weak though. He may have been a little intimidated by Neil.
If you had seen/heard the rest of the show, it was clear he was pulling back on his volume. He sang much louder during both the preceding and subsequent songs. He may have been intimidated or just unsure given they've never done that song before.
Ali
#215 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
Just meaning he seemed in fine spirits. When u have something like strep throat:
1. u are highly contagious, so he risked infecting EVERYBODY in the place, kids included.
2. Your throat wouldn't allow you to sing at all. Axl isn't Superman. No way he could overcome that to sing as good as he did.
3. Strep Throat typically comes with a fever. so the fact Axl was in good spirits moving around etc leads me to believe its a bad excuse. Now did he have strep throat 2 weeks ago and has recovered but was unable to do any kind of rehearsals/warmups for this? I'll buy that, but no way he had the actual strepthroat virus during the show.
D, that's not exactly true. Antibiotics can reduce the acute symptomatic period as well as the contagious period. Strep throat does not always come with a fever. They symptoms of any illness are not always the same from person to person or occurrence to occurrence.
Ali
#216 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
-D- wrote:I'm not a negative poster. Just a truthful poster. Unfortunately some refuse to hear.
I bashed RIR but was right there to praise the next show that kicked ass.
my show in Nashville kicked ass.. That first show was terrible.
strep throat? I find that hard to believe honestly. Axl didn't appear "Sick"
Just like he had a "Broke" shoulder. Give me a break. I work with people everyday who have broken shoulders, and trust me, there is no way He could've moved his arm the way he did if he had a true broke shoulder.
He will get better but the bad part is, he obviously has done nothing since the last tour ended to improve himself.
Trust me when I say; I get what you're saying. I'm not sure how I feel about the "strep throat" line and like I've said before the dude started singing "You're Crazy" again in the middle of "Jungle", so obviously there's problems.
So I hear and agree with you when you say there were/are problems.
There's more going on than an illness, or at least there was on Saturday. He had a lyrical and/or vocal flub (however you want to describe it) on Saturday. He didn't on Sunday. Which, is why I said he appeared more focused last night.
Ali
#217 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
I'm not a negative poster. Just a truthful poster. Unfortunately some refuse to hear.
I bashed RIR but was right there to praise the next show that kicked ass.
my show in Nashville kicked ass.. That first show was terrible.
strep throat? I find that hard to believe honestly. Axl didn't appear "Sick"
Just like he had a "Broke" shoulder. Give me a break. I work with people everyday who have broken shoulders, and trust me, there is no way He could've moved his arm the way he did if he had a true broke shoulder.
He will get better but the bad part is, he obviously has done nothing since the last tour ended to improve himself.
How exactly does someone appear "sick" when they are wearing a hat and sunglasses, though? I mean how do you tell? 
Ali
#218 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
I'll add one more thing for now. During one of the set changes, they showed this video tribute containing a bunch of pictures of this former Bridge School student that passed away almost a year ago at the age of 9. He was laughing and smiling in every single picture, despite the challenges that life threw at him and before his life was tragically cut short.
I saw that and then it crystallized for me that while people are complaining about the raspiness, or lack thereof, in Axl's voice and all that, there was something much more significant about this particular gig. Something that went beyond the performances themselves.
I'm thankful I have my health and am able to enjoy concerts and express that gratitude in verbal and written communication. These kids weren't blessed like I was. So, I'm thankful that there are people like Neil and Pegi Young who help these kids out, and make their situations known to the rest of us.
Ali
#219 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
Glad you an amazing time, Ali! Very interesting story.
Yeah, it was very cool. A once in a lifetime experience, really.
It was funny because before the song with Neil Young, Axl said "from the be careful what you wish for department" and after it he said "that was pretty fucking awesome".
I heard this girl say as I was leaving "It was so cool to see Axl so humble".
That made me chuckle.
Ali
#220 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit » 716 weeks ago
Ali wrote:monkeychow wrote:Given Ali likes the clean tone best, and prefers the feel of the 2012 wobbling pitch displayed during last night's rendition of "better" over the cold cutting sharp anger of a 2009 Axl...I can only hope that he'll report that the gig sounded bad...as to the rest of us...that will mean Axl's back!
Please do not put words in my mouth. Yes on the first part, but the 2nd part is complete and utter fabrication you're attributing to me. I never said anything about preferring "wobbling pitch".
Ali
I get what you're saying Ali, but I honestly don't think 'Chow meant any disrespect towards you with the post. I think he was just being funny in a good natured way, or at least that's always the vibe I get from him.
Fair enough. It's just a pet peeve of mine.
Some other notes. My girlfriend observed, and correctly so, that Axl used more vibrato last night than on Saturday night. He definitely sounded like he was pushing his voice more, getting more volume, throughout the set. Like I said before, his voice had a fuller quality last night, like it was resonating more in his chest than his head. I think he was blending his head and chest voice better last night. My girlfriend, who is not a GN'R fan BTW, said the set last night was much closer to what we saw at the LA Forum last year apart from increased raspiness that may have been due to the illness.
True story: Of all the preceding acts, GN'R got the loudest ovation of the night after their set. 2nd True Story: A very sweet woman named Kathy that I met there that is celebrating her 66th birthday today, turned to me after GN'R finished their set and said, "Well, that kicked fucking ass."
Also, Axl said that they asked Neil if he would join them for "Don't Let It Bring You Down" as it was a song that always gave Axl hope.
Ali
