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#211 Re: Guns N' Roses » anyone hear the atlas clip leak » 314 weeks ago
If anybody can PM the clips too, I'd sincerely appreciate it.
I found one on youtube, with a Spanish title, sounds awesome.
#212 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 314 weeks ago
Socialism cannot exist under a democracy. Say Bernie gets his way, it would tank the economy for at least four years, I mean total disaster with skyrocketing unemployment, high taxes, etc. And four years is being generous that you could see even the slightest bit of positivity, where crap is a little less crappish... The American people would not stand for it and vote every socialist out. The left would then start hyping getting rid of the EC, abolishing rights, packing the supreme court, rewriting the constitution. Socialism can only exist under a dictatorship.
This is strange talk. ^^^ Socialism can only exist under a dictatorship? Huh?
Our country has quite a bit of socialism already: Medicare, Medicaid, VA healthcare, public schools, social security, libraries, public transportation, parks, firefighters, the police....on and on. That's before we even get to corporate socialism (the kind Republicans never want to talk about.) Let's not also forget that it was socialism that bailed out capitalism when Wall Street was imploding about a decade ago. Tax payers picked up the tab and kept these giant corporations afloat.
I'd also argue that most Americans aren't very good at basic math. They scoff at "high" tax rates, but are buried under student loan debt, credit card debt, medical bills, childcare etc and have very little hope of retiring. But sure, your tax rate is 25% so you're "free"...congrats.
#213 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 320 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:Also want to check in with the MAGA crowd: You're cool with immigrant children being denied showers, toothbrushes, soap, clean clothes and being separated from their parents by 1000s of miles? (some they can't even find anymore, the children are for all extents and purposes lost.)
Enjoying your increased national debt and blown up deficit?
Cool with that?
Yes or no.
I'm not in the MAGA crowd (though I'm sure you think I am), but it's just more of the same man. That's the reality. You like to pretend it's different, but it isn't. Not a a level that makes a difference at least. If you were cool with what happened under Obama, you lose any ability to credibly complain about things now.
You didn't answer the question.
Obama didn't have a policy to separate children from their parents. He also didn't go to court to deny children soap, toothpaste etc etc. This is all Trump's policies we're talking about.
Obama also cut the deficit down, nearly in half. It's not anything like what Trump/GOP are doing.
So let's try this again, simple question, yes or no.
Are you cool with immigrant children being denied showers, toothbrushes, soap, clean clothes and being separated from their parents by 1000s of miles? (some they can't even find anymore, the children are for all extents and purposes lost.)
Are you ok with the national debt forecast and adding billions to the deficit?
Yes or no.
#214 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 320 weeks ago
Also want to check in with the MAGA crowd: You're cool with immigrant children being denied showers, toothbrushes, soap, clean clothes and being separated from their parents by 1000s of miles? (some they can't even find anymore, the children are for all extents and purposes lost.)
Enjoying your increased national debt and blown up deficit?
Cool with that?
Yes or no.
#215 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 320 weeks ago
I dont get it, free college, free healthcare, and open borders for Central Americans. I mean, sorry, but how will this be paid for without drastically reforming our economy?
How do they backtrack during the election to attract moderates? Trying to acquire Bernie Sanders thunder os one thing, trying to win the Presidential election is another. I think Liz Warren may go a bit of a centrists route, adding an ACA like tax that even illegals would need to pay to be on 'free' healthcare. I saw an article that Tulsi Gabbard or Klobuchar need to make waves and campaign as more of a centrist.
Dems shouldve gone moderate thiz primary, instead they're going rad left. We'll see how it plays out.
Amazon paid zero in taxes. Zip. Same for many other corporations. We can pay for all sorts of things IMO, if we didn't give it all away to the ultra wealthy and corporations. Warren has gone into the math a little bit on this.
I disagree with paying for healthcare for illegal aliens and it would never happen anyway. Not sure why anybody would address this. Although children under 18 I may be OK with to be honest.
Moderate narratives will appear once we're in the general election. Right now they're working on the base. Just like the right wing plays to theirs. It's way too early to see this as any shift to the far left.
...and Bidens slippin a bit. He wont win this.
I doubt Biden will be the nominee. There are too many strong candidates in the field. He's got name recognition right now and that's about it.
#216 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 320 weeks ago
It's not about censoring. It's about a specific poster doing nothing but shit posting and adding no value to the forum. It's about someone who can't make a coherent sentence, and repeatedly uses language like this. I'm not saying he should be banned, but a final warning and clear message to knock it off would be helpful.
It is about censoring. You'll do anything you can to silence those who speak against you including doxxing them.
You don't understand context.
You also provide little value, if any, and are an all around lousy person. You've stunk up numerous forums over the years, made things deeply personal and acted like a little crybaby anytime you received one iota of push back.
buzzsaw wrote:You should be immediately banned for this post. Hopefully they have the guts to do it.
I reported it, but with James MIA and Neemo on solo duty, I doubt anything will come of it.
You would report it, lol, what a loser.
You've been banned from how many forums now Flagg?
Watched the debate. Haha, what a joke
You support Trump no matter what...so not much room to talk here SG. In fact...no room.
PaSnow wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Dont waste it while I'm in Vegas.
Are you in Vegas? Is it hot AF there or what? I stayed at Excalibur about 2 years ago, I dug it. Always liked the water show out front of Bellagio.
I'm on a plane headed there. Its summer, so its hot!
Rascal scooters are pretty easy to rent while you're here, just FYI.
#217 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 320 weeks ago
Debates at this point are fucking stupid.
Nothing of substance is even remotely occurring.
I find it stupid to debate policy right now when so many dumb things are going on. Like anyone votes on issues anyway right now. It’s either you’re for trump or you’re against him.
I agree. I'm not even going to bother watching until they're down to half a dozen or so.
The immigration crisis that Trump created at the border is horrific and cruel by design. Anybody OK with that is pretty much a piece of shit.
And that's just one of many horrible things going on. ^^^ As usual, too much to keep up with.
#218 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2019 tour date announced » 320 weeks ago
1000 a piece (before fees)for floor tickets here....hard pass.
#219 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 324 weeks ago
It’s classless and pandering to the crazies as you said, but it’s nothing new. Yet at least Trump says his bravado to audiences, rather than behind closed doors.
King Trump says everything out the open! King Trump never would say anything behind closed doors! Duhhhhh....
We've got one of the biggest idiots as POTUS in our lifetime, maybe in the history of our country. That lies constantly, doesn't understand basic functions of government, who insults our allies, attacks the media, attacks free speech, thumbs his nose at the rule of law, welcomed Russia's help to get him elected ,obstructed justice on nearly a dozen occasions and you're all like...."at least Trump says his bravado to audiences, rather than behind closed doors."
We're moving into full blown cult leader status now, do you have guys all have daddy issues or something?
#220 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 324 weeks ago
Maybe someone can point me to the obstruction?
Good to see you, SLC.
(What's up dude? I have no spare time lately.)
See what honest Republicans say:
