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#231 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Star Wars Thread *NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!* » 495 weeks ago
Me_Wise_Magic wrote:Speaking of McQuarrie (I still need to see the fifth one as well.), there are rumors that he did a re-write on the shooting script for Star Wars: Rogue One which is coming out next Christmas directed by Gareth Edwards (Godzilla '14 and Monsters). So that means they are taking these films' productions very seriously. Script doctors come in all the time on projects. Also I think McQuarrie is sticking around for the 6th M.I. movie as well.
You might say McQuarrie and other script doctors are the literary equivalents to people like Josh Freese; able to jump in to someone else's circus, figure out what's needed in a potentially high-stress situation and deliver working solutions on cue. These people get paid very well for doing uncredited work; the monetary compensation covers both the lack of public acknowledgment and the slim amount of personal artistic expression. So much for any auteur theories; this stuff is high-end commercial enterprise all the way.*
Also, feature film writing credits (on studio releases, anyway) are arbitrated by the Writer's Guild and they have a strict set of guidelines on who's entitled to what. I get that, because relatively few people can honestly screenwrite, yet many more do try, even on big-budget features. Sometimes, script doctors are even given producing credits to circumvent the WGA arbitration.
I was a bit perplexed about your comment on Disney taking Rogue 1 seriously until I checked the writing credits. Gary Whitta and Chris Weitz. Ugh. Either of those guys is still to impress me as an above-the-line scribe, so McQuarrie is definitely a good person to elevate the material. Good for them Mouse Corp development execs to snap back to their wits.
*You might be curious as to how unceremoniously Josh Trank was sacked from the SW spinoff movie following Rogue 1. Both the box office failure and the dirty laundry on his recent Fantastic 4 film contributed to people squirming in their conference room chairs to an insufferable degree. Trank's hiring was based on the rush that he's a cool new cat, whom they could boss around and get a balance of safe and edgy for their troubles. When things went south on F4, he was let go just as quick. You'd think properties of this size are governed with calm and maturity. Sometimes, this is so. Case Trank shows the spontaneity involved can go either way at the drop of a hat.
The box office of Force Awakens is what makes them serious, the six-foot mouse is a greedy bastard.
polluxlm wrote:People who haven't seen the movie but still has the urge to click a SW thread, beware.
Eeep!
All good points. Oh I know the full story of what went on between Trank, Simon Kimberg, and a bunch of execs at Fox over the Fantastic 4 affair. Lots of ego, misdirection, and everyone acting like an asshole during the production. Fox doesn't give a flying fuck about F4. They make these movies to keep the rights and they kicked Trank out of the editing room for the movie. Also they cut 3 big action set pieces, one of them teased in the 2nd trailer out of the final cut. Doesn't excuse Trank from alienating himself from those who tried to help and give their best go at the film shoot. His reported drug behavior and property damage are other factors; but haven't been 100% proven as of yet.
Back on topic, the reason I referred to Whitta is because Lucasfilm liked a majority of his first draft and he did write the script for the first season of TellTale's The Walking Dead video game. Weitz is who worries me; but having McQuarrie come in during the shoot and give it the right beats proves they give a shit about the future of this franchise. It was said it didn't him long to do his approved re-write. Plus I like Edwards as a director for Rogue One.
#232 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Opening Acts » 495 weeks ago
Muse would be a good choice. Isn't Alice Cooper on his own tour? If its Cooper on one leg, what's next....KISS?
The reason why I say Alice is because he has history with the band. He recorded with them. He also was one of the big advocates for the reunion in the past and I think recommended Bob Ezrin to help out with CD. Since Bob helped get the original Alice Cooper band to where they were in the studio as well as Alice's solo career. Yes he does his own tours; but he doesn't mind sharing the stage with other big acts. He did it for Motley and Iron Maiden awhile ago. He's done it all especially the festival circuit. Muse or even the Killers would be cool too.
#233 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 495 weeks ago
Pitman responded to a tweet about the reunion.
I'd be down with Mother Goose coming back into the fold whether it be helping with the synth parts for some of the live songs with Dizzy or just in a studio, songwriting setting.
#234 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Opening Acts » 495 weeks ago
Foo fighters for easy number increases.
Sound Garden so Lofton will have orgasm overload.
Both of those sound great. Foo Fighters have some of the best live shows. I saw them and they played for almost 3 hours. Also FlashFlood bringing up Alice in Chains would be amazing as well. Another band I've been dying to see perform besides GNR.
#235 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Opening Acts » 495 weeks ago
Me_Wise_Magic wrote:I was thinking Avenged Sevenfold since they are huge GNR fans and they can do stadium gigs. Also Slash has played with them before and M. Shadows has said some nice things about both camps especially with the direction Axl was going in.
Avenged Sevenfold has a pretty hardcore and large fan base themselves. They could be a good choice. I don't think a reunited Skid Row would make that much of a difference attendance wise. Maybe if they go with two openers, and that's probably a good possibility. Then Axl doesn't have to go on until after 10.
Very true. Gotta keep that Axl time in check. 
#236 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Opening Acts » 495 weeks ago
AX7 would be good
Would be shocked nota reunited Skid Row
Plus A7X are working on a new album that lines up quite well with GNR's potential plans. So it makes sense. Halestorm works too. I've always wanted to see that band live. Hell..throw in Alice Cooper.
#237 Re: Guns N' Roses » Potential Opening Acts » 495 weeks ago
I was thinking Avenged Sevenfold since they are huge GNR fans and they can do stadium gigs. Also Slash has played with them before and M. Shadows has said some nice things about both camps especially with the direction Axl was going in.
#238 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Star Wars Thread *NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!* » 495 weeks ago
So outside of really rumors & speculation, is there an official plan for whats next? I know the next one VIII comes out Summer 2017. So how about 9 IX? 2019 or 2020? And are they making a 10, 11, & 12? Is it sorta turning in James Bond & just going on & on?
Also, Mr Wise Magic, did you say they're making a TV show?
Yes there is an official plan. VIII and lX were officially announced at Disney's D23 Expo as well as press releases with the spin off "Anthology/Story" movies. lX will be out in 2019 unless a spin off gets bumped up to that particular year instead. Which have been confirmed to be the already shooting Star Wars: Rogue One in December '16, A young Han Solo movie directed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller (21 and 22 Jump Street, Cloudy With A Chance..., and the Lego Movie) in 2018, and a third still yet untitled one that was originally supposed to be worked on by Josh Trank before he quit or "allegedly" was asked to step down from the project with how the Fantastic Four movie was a messy production that failed at the box office. Rumors were it was about bounty hunters and would of tied into the Han Solo flick. Maybe a Obi Wan movie dealing with his time in hiding and going on different adventures. This is the film project that is only speculation and rumors right now. I would love a Anthology movie dealing with the Old Republic or the wrath of the original Darth Plagus. It could be James Bond like; but that kind of concept may be used for Lucas film still thinking about doing another Indiana Jones movie. Which they kind of need to do in the next couple years if they still want to use Harrison Ford. I have a feeling Ford will be in the young Han Solo movie maybe even doing narration or an intro or outro for the movie. Which means he may not be completely 100% done with Star Wars just yet. Eventually years down the road, they are either going to have to go the Bond route with either franchise and re-cast when appropriate.
As for the TV-verse, they have one out right now that's animated called, "Star Wars Rebels" which takes place before A New Hope and it's pretty great even though it was developed for kids and families. They used some canned character ideas for the new trilogy for some of the new villains and such in Rebels. It's the same show runner from the Clone Wars CG show; but it has better writing overall. Would of loved to see more of Genndy Tartakovstky's take on Star Wars besides his mini series on the same time period which is also wonderful. I will say for the future that Lucas-film is trying to get "Star Wars: Underworld" off the ground. It's a project Lucas himself worked on for many years when the prequels were being shot. It's a live action show about bounty hunters, assassins, and storm troopers I think. Some of the ideas from the show's concept were going to be used for the canceled video game, "Star Wars: 1313". Which the original team hopes to revive someday with a different developer. Disney is thinking about the best way to network the show and budget costs. That's all I know about the project right now. There was a post phoned CG cartoon parodying the universe called, "Star Wars: DeTours" developed by Seth Green and the team that created Robot Chicken and it would of been marketed towards children. Lots of jokes about getting revenge on Jar Jar, Princess Leia as a little kid, and other things. You can find the test pilot reel online somewhere. It was made before the Disney acquisition and they aren't sure if the full series will be shown to the general public. A good number of episodes were animated, voice recorded, and ready to be shipped out.
#239 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Star Wars Thread *NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!* » 495 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:I look at it like this, if jj abrams couldve he would make 250 million different movies to satisfy everyones tastes, ideas, and expectations. And theyd all be satisfied. However theres not enough money or time in the universe, so he couldnt. So of course he cannot meet every imdb nitwits ideas. This thread itsellf has become an example, some of us are saying it copied the original too much, then another post said kylo renn should have had a nasty scar or deformity when he took his helmet off, directly copying darth vader.
Lets look at some of the thinfs i felt jj abrams did great. BB8, runaway stormtrooper was ballsy, female protagonist to carry the film,, raz (?) The wise character at the cantina, making leia a general not just a silly, dated era princess, doing away with the cell phone technology liam neeson used (i thought that was a cheesy makeup call for not forseeing that in the originals.... theres more, so lets admit he did alot, alot great. I thought c3po having the red arm was a cool, unique idea. Just a small thing.
I do agree tho i want the storyline arc copying to stop in the next one. Obviously i dont want that to parallel empire so it needs to be completely original.
Also, can we stop doing the spoiler tags soon. Myb new years day or something. If u havent seen the movie by then u could just not come into the thread. Not sure why u would if u hadnt seen it anyway, unless its not open overseas yet or something?
I just saw it today and avoided this thread until now just in case. I thought it was great.
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#240 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Star Wars Thread *NO SPOILERS ALLOWED!* » 495 weeks ago
Me_Wise_Magic wrote:If you've seen recent interviews with JJ, he's exhausted. Not Joss Whedon/Avengers 2 exhausted; but tired and needing a break none the less.
Film directing can be an exhausting job on any budgetary scale, because the individual workload is more or less the same. On independent level, there's more hands-on work related to other work areas, such as producing and logistics. On mega-budget, there are all the talking heads that are worried about their jobs. These people oft work in marketing, meaning it's tiresome to find a creative bone in their body.
If you put the honest effort in, it's draining and going for seconds straight-up is really the last thing I'd imagine Abrams would want. This also has to do with the scheduling demands. Star Wars is a holiday tentpole - the finished product needs to be turned in on a specific date, or shit will happen like a domino effect. If a delivery date is missed, the big machine that supplies the DCP's to theater chains runs on empty and you can imagine where that leads. The ad campaigns become a huge and embarrassing misfire if the finished film is non-existent on the date given. Words like clusterfuck or quagmire hardly begin to cover it.
Still to see the latest Mission Impossible, but I noticed a passing mention by the producers on how writer-director Christopher McQuarrie has "not been sleeping" for months in order to meet the delivery date given. I'm fairly sure they meant it. It can be a great job, but one needs to love the craft an insane amount to go through the punishment that sometimes comes with the territory.
Definitely understand that. Speaking of McQuarrie (I still need to see the fifth one as well.), there are rumors that he did a re-write on the shooting script for Star Wars: Rogue One which is coming out next Christmas directed by Gareth Edwards (Godzilla '14 and Monsters). So that means they are taking these films' productions very seriously. Script doctors come in all the time on projects. Also I think McQuarrie is sticking around for the 6th M.I. movie as well.
