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#241 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 232 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:I can't fucking believe Slither & BHS are still on the setlist. What the actual fuck. If Axl insists on playing covers at least vary it up a bit. Play The Last Fight or Messages, VR tracks that would go better with his current voice. If you still need to play Soundgarden, play RATYW or something. Slash keep shredding and getting more technical, give him a challenge.
Nobody cares about The Last Fight and even less care about Messages. You want them playing VR deep cuts and B sides in 2021?!?
The audience would think they are brand new songs. This would cause any potential that Hardschool has to be squandered.
When looking at things such as set lists, you have to stop looking at it from a hardcore fan perspective.
It's not about hardcore fans anymore and hasn't been for a long time. It's about casual fans and will be until the end of the line.
Hell....GNR management...which literally spent nearly 20 years obsessed with forums....no longer gives the tiniest of shits about them.
They only care about social media...which is where casual fans reside.
They aren't seeing requests for VR deep cuts on social media....and wouldn't play them if they did.
Do you know what they're seeing on social media?
Jungle....SCOM....PC....NR.... Patience.....the occasional mention of something new.
I just hope Hardschool is staying in the set even though I'm not a big fan of it. They're not playing it for hardcores.... they're playing it for a large audience...and there has to be a reason for it.
I don't think evidence backs up your assertion about TB. Fernando spends almost no time on social media, however he held several Q&As on GNR Reddit in 2019 and 2020, and gave a 2 hour interview on the GNFNR discord chat last year. He was still doing MYGNR chats in 2018, and only stopped because he was pissed at the way they handled the leaks.
I get your point about the confusion about VR deep cuts being new songs, so that wouldn't be a great idea. But I doubt there were many requests for Wichita Lineman on social media either, not to mention The Seeker which they've played a thousand times. Speaking of social media, the NITL select of BHS released in December was a laughing stock on both Twitter and Facebook and even had some mainstream music news sites mocking it. If Axl is going to do covers he should at least do ones he can sing well. Just look at Youtube comments on Slither videos, lots of casuals not impressed at all with that chorus.
#242 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 232 weeks ago
I can't fucking believe Slither & BHS are still on the setlist. What the actual fuck. If Axl insists on playing covers at least vary it up a bit. Play The Last Fight or Messages, VR tracks that would go better with his current voice. If you still need to play Soundgarden, play RATYW or something. Slash keep shredding and getting more technical, give him a challenge.
#243 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 232 weeks ago
You people are on crack. No one's more of a CD era purist than me and I'd rather have Zodiac, Soul Monster & Berlin in their original forms than this, but the original Hardschool demo is pure uninspired nonsense. Boring intro, solos that don't fit, ect. Slash gives it a more UYI feel and gives the song a rawer, meaner feel. This is a huge improvement.
#244 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 232 weeks ago
Hoping for the debut of Oklahoma/Berlin. It was apparently ready for prime time at the HOB 2001 and may even date to the 1995-1996 sessions.
#245 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Prostitute » 232 weeks ago
The song is an ocean of beauty. It may not have hooks but it's melodies are still powerful. Great lyrics, unfortunately they no longer apply to Axl Rose since 2011. I prefer the sound of the Village version.
#246 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…This I Love » 233 weeks ago
I realize it's a controversial opinion on this forum but I love Robin's solo. Slash's version is just more mindless shred. I like the music box in the remix but Axl way overdoes the verses, so I prefer the album version.
#247 Re: Guns N' Roses » Wtf happened to…Madagascar » 233 weeks ago
One of the best tracks of the CD era. Majestic melodies and lyrics. Pitman was underrated for sure. I prefer the raw sound of the Village demo.
#248 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 233 weeks ago
It's Axl's own fault he chooses to sing Slither's chorus with his falsetto.
#249 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 233 weeks ago
metallex78 wrote:davegnfnr2k wrote:Slash's hard school was a disaster. You really think that was good?
As for something like Soul Monster, not sure why Axl just doesn't let Fortus do the BH stuff Fortus can shred and would be able to handle all of BHs stuffbut of course Axl wants to give Slash pretty much all fo the CD solos that both Finck and BH did. So dumb.Slash improved Hardschool to actually sound like a Guns N’ Roses song. If you think that’s butchering it, then you don’t really like GN’R’s classic sound.
When did a clip of Hardschool come out with Slash playing? Is that something recent?
The soundcheck guy leaked a clip of the rehearsal before the 3/14/2020 Mexico show.
#250 Re: Guns N' Roses » We don't really expect a new setlist do we? » 233 weeks ago
There's no sense Slash trying to copy Bucket. Make it their own.
I'll say Locomotive and Hardschool.
I hadn't really thought about Locomotive, it wasn't played at either 2020 show. I wonder if it'll become a staple this year, Axl has to be sick of singing Coma. Unless Loco is harder for him to sing?
