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#241 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 576 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:

But my reason for pointing out that Axl is a Golden God, is not that the award itself means much, but that he is in the "legend" league that you guys all hold him in such high regard, as do I.

I think that's part of the reason that people (myself included) get so frustrated with Axl and the situation.  The guy is a musical legend.  He has (or had depending on the day) a voice and talents that only come along once or twice in a generation.

Yet sadly he seems to have wasted so much potential post UYI and still continues to.  It's a real shame.  From a selfish point of view I would love to have a much bigger body of work from him to enjoy than what we have.

#242 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ron leaving the band after Vegas? » 576 weeks ago

sp1at wrote:

Axl is on a mission to complete whatever it is he wants to do, and the longer that takes, the less likely any Rewind type scenario is going to happen.

I used to think this too, but after the release of CD it seems like he has completely lost his way and his mojo and he no longer has a desire to do anything else other than exist. 

It would be nice to think he is working through some definite strategy or goal that he has, but these residency's or another tour of South America don't feel like they are part of some bigger picture beyond paying the bills?

#243 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR in Vegas 2014 » 577 weeks ago

Nice to see the Doc Neeson tribute in there.

#244 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR in Vegas 2014 » 577 weeks ago

Yeah Apex that part stuck out for me too, it's interesting that past tense was used as opposed to "I wish we would do that more often".

But I may be reading waaay too much into it.

#245 Re: Guns N' Roses » Opinion Piece: Why Izzy Stradlin Was the Heart of Guns N' Roses » 577 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

When the band was inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, Izzy set up a meeting with Axl at a L.A. Hotel. He wanted to get an agreement for the original band to play together one last time - do the fuckin' re-union there in that moment and then say “thank you, good fuckin' night.” After waiting for two hours for Axl to show, he drove home to Ojai. No-show Axl had made him miserable one more fuckin' time.

I guess this settles the debate about what some of us where arguing at the time of the HOF thing.  Izzy's no show was due to Axl's no show, if Axl was going to be there then Izzy would have too.

#246 Guns N' Roses » Opinion Piece: Why Izzy Stradlin Was the Heart of Guns N' Roses » 577 weeks ago

Aussie
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Classic Rock commissioned Alan Niven to write an opinion piece on Izzy Stradlin:

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/feature … ns-n-roses


It was Izzy's fuckin' band... at least that's my perception.

Iz made the move to the city first. He packed his suitcase and went to lay the foundation of a band. Rattlesnake hide or not, you know that bag was worn and funky, not shiny, like a new Halliburton from Tim Collins.

Iz was the first to take the Night Train out of small town Indiana for Los Angeles. Axl followed Izzy once he was set up in L.A. - an easy move. He then retreated back to Lafayette. Couldn't hack it in L.A. according to Iz. He was relieved. He told me later he didn't want to deal with Rose, who he had known since High School. Axl couldn't deal with small town Indiana either so he moved a second time, loaded like a freight train with all his baggage. Iz was less than thrilled. So it went. On the third date of the band's first national tour, supporting The Cult, Izzy knocked on my hotel room door. He brushed past me and flopped on the sofa.

“That motherfucker makes us miserable every fuckin' day,” he groaned.

Ax was never so fuckin' easy, but he had that voice, a voice that reeked of Middle American white boy outrage and anger. He had that attitude that championed individualism and every individual. Especially himself. If that was what Axl brought to the band what did Izzy bring? He brought the Night Train, Mr. Brownstone, he brought the sweet street Jungle groove. When Mike Clink hit the wall, exhausted from the Appetite sessions, a concerned Tom Zutaut asked me to check the recordings.

“Mike can't fix a mix. Do you think we have it on tape Niv?”

I asked him to send me Izzy's Brownstone. Michael Lardie and I prepped the sound board at Total Access to do a fast mix. We put the two inch reel up. It was there. The groove, the edge. We were able to cook up a mix in four hours. Clink had got it on tape. We were good.

I first saw Izz on the stage of The Troubadour. He had an effortless offhand grace in the way he handled his hollow-bodied Gibson. He played his rhythm parts with a perfect insouciance, knowing exactly when he should leave a space, syncopate the groove. I have a picture on my wall of Izzy playing with Keef and Ronnie Wood. They not only play like kin, they look like Mama's kin. Imagine The Stones without Keef.

Izzy had the casual wisdom not to inject himself into the blind obediences of a conformist's life. As much as a C.C. Deville or a Bon Jovi might have contrived to be rock n roll outlaws, Izzy was to the manner born. His lyrics had an uncontrived, main vein, street vernacular. When Guns were slated to open for Aerosmith Izzy came to me with a concern.

“Niv, this might be a bit awkward, but I used to deal smack to Joe and Steven.”

“Don't worry Iz, if you don't mention it I am damned sure they won't.”

Izzy left GN'R three months after I was kicked aside by Axl. Iz found me, somehow, when I was with The Whites in Winterthur, Switzerland.

“I can't deal with it anymore,” he said. There had almost been a riot at a Guns show in Germany. Rose had stormed off the stage for some reason, and Izzy was freaked by the idea of submachine gun toting cops breaking heads. He had the jitters. The binding pressure and exposure of expectation and fame, the anxieties that Rose generated, were not worth it to him. They were burning him down. He was going to quit there and then. He did not intend to play the tour closing show at Wembley Stadium.

“You can't let the fans and the others down like that Iz. You're not the bad guy. Don't be seen as one.”

I reserved and paid for a suite at the Wembley Stadium Hilton where Izzy could chill, away from the backstage area, and wait to see if Axl would turn up. Only when he knew that Rose was at the venue did he join the others for his last performance as a member of the band that was mostly built on his insight, songs and style.

It was Izzy's fuckin' band. Izzy was the one I could reliably count on for a position on a decision – his was always the incontrovertible point of view that best served the band. He grounded them with his unimpeachable rock n' roll stance habitually maintained in his playing and writing. Izzy had provided the cool heart for the hot soul of the band.

When the band was inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, Izzy set up a meeting with Axl at a L.A. Hotel. He wanted to get an agreement for the original band to play together one last time - do the fuckin' re-union there in that moment and then say “thank you, good fuckin' night.” After waiting for two hours for Axl to show, he drove home to Ojai. No-show Axl had made him miserable one more fuckin' time.

A band is like a chemical molecule. Not all the elements are of the same size, power or energy, and perception does not always define significance, but remove even the slightest grain and the molecule collapses. When Steven lost his mind and got himself fired that changed the feel of the rhythm section, the rush was done, but when Izzy left it meant that the band was no longer the Guns N' Roses that I knew and loved, the band that I was addicted to. It was just Dust n' Bones - “just fuckin' gone.”

As I said, if it was anyone's, it was Izzy's fuckin' band.

#247 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR in Vegas 2014 » 578 weeks ago

Nice review Cramer, cheers!

#248 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Revolver interview with Axl » 578 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
misterID wrote:

I've said it before, and it looks to be true, but Axl has been wiating for Ron to leave to release the next album. He can go back to those Buckethead solos without feeling obligated to include Ron.

That's an interesting theory. He should just pay Bucket a shitload of money to come back. Seems Axl is in a lot better place these days. They could do some awesome stuff together.

Agree interesting theory.  Maybe he can't be fucked messing with those songs anymore and adding Ron or DJ.  Does not having those guys on any future release cut down on any royalties or would he just be diluting Bucket's share if those guys got paid??

Who knows what Axl's thinks, but given how much the whole CD thing has been a chain around his neck, I doubt Axl has the mojo to revisit that shit in the vault again just to add Ron or DJ onto the tracks.

#249 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Revolver interview with Axl » 578 weeks ago

Yep reasonable interview and interesting that he speaks of new music and stuff. Hopefully it happens -soon!

#250 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash & The Conspirators new album WORLD ON FIRE due 15 September 2014 » 578 weeks ago

I have found myself staring at that pic for ages every time I see it trying to pick out all the different toys in it.

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