I saw an album cover of Hinder's once (this guy I work with showed it to me [I consider him to have the worst musical taste I've ever seen in a human being]) and all the guys looked like idiots. I can't judge them as I've not heard them, but given my co-workers track record, they have to be the rock equivalent to Soulja Boy.

I don't mind them saying over-produced, that's obvious, nor their decision to not tour with the unpredictable Axl, but "too artsy"? What the fuck? Something tells me the best parts of the album went way over these guys' heads and their "love" of GNR starts and ends with the rock singles or Appetite. If anything, GNR is hindered (no pun intended) by the fact their singles were so amazing for both devotees and the hardcores that no one remembered the songs on their albums were really different. I showed Breakdown to a friend and he said, "I didn't know Axl was into folk music" and I told him that the GNR you've heard on the radio and with legacy is entirely different than what the albums actually contain.

What is the CD equivalent to Tom Atkins?

Finally, someone else realizes the lyrics on many songs are incredibly primitive compared to his other work. It seems every second rhyme consists of "you" and "do" or "day" and "away". What saves it? You know he means what he is saying. Like another guy said, it's not just some bullshit.

Yeah, I was just going to say that I've hated on Finck a lot, but I realize it's only on the old stuff. Still, not good to fuck around with good tunes when people paid good money to see them played.

Am I the only one that hoped it wouldn't leak, just because of the fact that everything had leaked so much prior and the fact we're less than a week away anyways?

I didn't expect it, of course, but I was hoping it.