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#251 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did the 5/25 Announcement live up to the hype? POLL » 422 weeks ago
So i watched the vid from May 20
The text in the video says
Duff Axl Slash
April 1, 2016 - Reunite for Not in this lifetime tour
June 23, 2016 - Not in this lifetime tour kicks off in North America
October 27, 2016 - Not in the lifetime tour continues in South America and Mexico
December 5, 2016 - Additional 2017 stadium dates announced in UK, Europe, Israel, North America
January 21, 2017 - Not in this lifetime tour continues in Japan, new Zealand, Australia, and southeast Asia
March 3, 2017 - Not in this lifetime tour continues in Dubai, UAE
Wednesday May 24, 2017...
And the Facebook post is labelled
It doesn't end here...
#GnFnR #NotInThisLifetime TourSeems pretty clear to me what they were pushing
"We've toured for a year and we're not done yet"
Yeah, there were plenty of references to touring in that promo. It's not like they were leading you down some secret path. Granted they did mention the album releases too in the original video and other landmark events but I just think people chose their own path into hoping what the announcement would be.
#252 Re: The Garden » Chris Cornell dead » 422 weeks ago
They're running a cool Chris Cornell tribute on Sirius Howard 101. Interviews with him, performances, and Howard and company talking about him and his bands from back in the day. Just started at 5pm Eastern.
#253 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did the 5/25 Announcement live up to the hype? POLL » 422 weeks ago
If the tickets are in the 35-85 range, they will sell well... If they are 200-500, it won't sell well...
It looks like they're over $100 to start. We'll see. I wasn't convinced the Stadium shows would sell as well as they did so they could surprise again.
#254 Re: Guns N' Roses » Did the 5/25 Announcement live up to the hype? POLL » 422 weeks ago
Neither answer applies for me. But it was what I expected. The true test will be to see how the shows sell. If they don't sell well because they're hitting the same markets again with the same setlist and no new music, then I think they'd be forced to do something to correct that. If they still sellout no problem, then that can wait. It's unfortunate for us, but that's the way it is. Outside of the hardcore fan base, others could care less about new music from GNR. They'd rather see them live and post about it on social media. It's the world we live in.
#255 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
faldor wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Which is why we should be raising hell! Let them oil the squeaky wheel. You know they read the forums. Enough people bitch it will eventually make an impact.
I'm not about to express fake outrage and have a temper tantrum to get what I want. Plenty of others are. Have at it.
I knew what to expect, and got a little more than I expected actually. The promo video mentioned plenty of tour dates as well, so it all depends on how you view it. If you feel misled, it all depends on your interpretation of the video.
Your boy Adler did say TB had some cool stuff in store for AFD 30. Not sure how much he really knows or if we can trust him. And as we know all too well, plans can always change. So once again, I'm not getting my hopes up. If we get something, cool. If we don't, life goes on.
Cool man, I hear ya duuuuude, cooooool. If it happens greaaaat brah, if not, cooool tooo duuuude. Let's just love each other broooo. I mean, like, you know, no pressure mannnnnn... let's not let GNR control our lives... they are so awesome. $250 - $700 is great value man!!! Like we are sooooo lucky Axl is alive dude. He could be dead like Cornell mannnnn.
Wake up people. This is our favorite band and they blew it. Fucking blew it. It has been 9 Fucking years since CD. This is the most unacceptable shit I have ever seen. That stupid Fucking promo video blew up in their face. It was misleading. I bet you guys are the biggest pushovers in real life that justify this shit. And I like all of you, but if you can't call them out for simple bullshit that is frightening. This is bullshit. admit it.
And yes, it is ALL AXL. WHO THE FUCK ELSE COULD BE HOLDING GNR BACK? Pittman?
What good does holding them accountable do? No offense, but do you think TB gives a damn what Smoking Guns thinks and feel bad that he's upset and feels he was misled? I sure as hell don't. This idea that you're going to start some grassroots campaign that is all of a sudden going to change the course of history seems far fetched to me. But again, have at it. I wish you luck.
#256 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Aussie, Monkey, Metallex, Bono, Gibbo and Flashflood GET IT!!!!
They sum up everything perfectly.. They hyped up a bullshit leg of the tour as if AFD 2 was about to be released... Yet we are told "why let it bother you", "Why did you expect anything", "be lucky they are even alive", "be grateful for what you have"....
FUCK YOU!!!!! What kind of sheep loser mentality is that??!?!?! That is equivalent to Nick Saban saying, "oh well guys, we won some national titles, be content, no need to strive to be our best 100% of the time, lets be lazy mother fuckers and tell the fans they are lucky we are even playing football".. Do you think Michael Jordan or Leborn or Tom Brady would ever approach their craft how Axl approaches his and just show up to arenas to "play ball" and not try and win or be the best they can be? Fuck, Mick Jagger wouldn't, Slash didn't when he wasn't in GNR, neither did Duff. This apologist mentality for Axl is so fucking detrimental to the band and embarrassing to those that push that snowflake pussy bullshit.
AXL, GRAB YOUR FUCKING 54 YEAR OLD BALLS AND SING YOUR ASS OFF AND GIVE US A GOD DAMN REASON TO BE A FAN ANYMORE!!!!!
I would not be pissed one bit if they didn't do a 1 week promo video push for an announcement of arena tour dates. This may be one of the most disappointing days in GNR history...
Bono's back? Interesting.
It's not that we don't get it. Sadly we've gotten it for some time. That's why we're not surprised. Wanting more and knowing what to expect are two different things.
Which is why we should be raising hell! Let them oil the squeaky wheel. You know they read the forums. Enough people bitch it will eventually make an impact.
I'm not about to express fake outrage and have a temper tantrum to get what I want. Plenty of others are. Have at it.
I knew what to expect, and got a little more than I expected actually. The promo video mentioned plenty of tour dates as well, so it all depends on how you view it. If you feel misled, it all depends on your interpretation of the video.
Your boy Adler did say TB had some cool stuff in store for AFD 30. Not sure how much he really knows or if we can trust him. And as we know all too well, plans can always change. So once again, I'm not getting my hopes up. If we get something, cool. If we don't, life goes on.
#257 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
apex-twin wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Let me clear, I am not surprised one bit by the bullshit stunt that was pulled.
Looking at your, ahem, emotional response, I was kinda thinking you were surprised, even disappointed.
It is what it is. This is pretty much the last gravy train their tickets are valid for; they realized they need to board it now. We can take it or leave it, our choice.
Smoking Guns wrote:What happened to "The most dangerous band in the world".
Big business, managers and lawyers. Money thwarts many a rebellion. Now, they're mainly dangerous to your blood pressure.
Nope. It's all Axl man... nothing to do with lawyers or managers. Axl is the only reason for lack of new shit. PERIOD.
That could be the case, but you do not know that for a fact. THAT is a fact.
#258 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
Axl is getting double the rate Slash and Duff are. He could have come off HIS to bring in Adler and Izzy. He chose not to... why is it up to Slash and Duff to take even less and Axl not budge??
Who says that's the way any of this has happened? I never said Duff and Slash should take less and Axl stays the same. Maybe, just maybe, the three of them combined didn't want to take less to include Izzy and Steven. And let's not forget the reliability factor here. When was the last time Izzy and Steven completed a massive worldwide tour over multiple years? Would it be a smart business decision to throw millions of dollars at them and hope for the best? And does Axl just kick Frank and Richard to the curb after their years of loyalty and reliability? Lots of things to consider, other than what was great 30 years ago.
#259 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:This is shameful. Bon Jovi, U2, Metallica, Pearl Jam, Rolling Stones, Foo Fighters, Etc don't do this to their fans.
Metallica hasn't toured since 2009. I don't know what the outrage is for. They never promised an album. The band fans screamed for 20 years to reunite is on stage again, and the fan base still finds a reason to bitch. If you guys don't want to attend a show, then don't. But how can you be mad that Axl and Slash are on stage again playing the very same songs you've listened to and affected you personally a thousand times over.
I don't get it either. I especially don't get why fans got all amped up for this announcement thinking it'd be something groundbreaking. It wasn't exactly promoted that way. What you want and what you expect are two entirely different things that need to be separated.
The days of announcing a tour out of nowhere in a press release are gone. Now we get tipped off and get an announcement through Social Media and it's an issue. Obviously we all want more and are ready for Round 2, but did you honestly expect more? Added North American dates are actually more than I predicted they'd announce. I figure it'd be limited to LA based shows with possible appearances by Izzy and Steven. This, is more than that.
#260 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook Announcement » 422 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:tejastech08 wrote:The Izzy and Steven factor is driving some of the frustration. If we are going to have the same setlist, at least give us the real GN'R.
I saw Steven at the Cinci show. It was cool, but I think the dude is totally overrated. He was part of AFD. The only song from Lies that gets any playtime he wans't a part of. He helped with Civil War. That's it. The idea that Adler is somehow a core part of the success of GN'R is laughable.
As others have said, Izzy bailed before the UYI tour even started. He didn't do a single thing to promote those albums. The idea that Izzy and Steven should be paid equal to the other 3 after they did all they could to sabotage the band's success is laughable to me. Don't get me wrong, I'd enjoy a show with them as much as anyone else. How many of you saw a gig last year in person? I hope every person bitching did so, otherwise be happy that people are putting this shit up on YouTube for free. No one is going to a show expecting to see Izzy and Steven. Sorry, they're just not that important. They've been out of the band for 26 years. At some point you need to move on.
Oh it is about Discography now? Please tell me what the fuck Frank recorded? We all know an Adler Sorum combo for the tour was the right move and what Slash and Duff wanted. But Axl said no. They also wanted Izzy but Axl refused to come off HIS SHARE.
We know that? Really? Must have missed that memo. We know that Slash and Duff were willing to take less for Steven and Izzy to be a part of this? Again, I must have missed that.
