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#251 Re: The Sunset Strip » Matthew Perry Dead » 87 weeks ago
With the year coming to an end, this is probably the surprising celeb death of 2023.
Sad. Must have been a heart attack.
I always hated Friends. Couldn't believe it was a huge craze back in the day.
#252 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
James wrote:misterID wrote:It could have been that they were always meant to bleed into each other. Those orchestrations were really long and intricate
Everyone forgets the interludes... probably because it was only mentioned once.
Both these songs may have initially had an interlude sandwiched between them.
I wish we could've had the real Chinese Democracy before the leaks and long wait got out of control.
Even if the track list largely stays the same, it could've been different.
the interlude is eye on you
When listening to those discs I did wonder if some of that stuff was possibly used for interludes.
A shortened As It Began has interlude written all over it. So does Nothing.
The long CD intro on the album may have been a surviving interlude. Years earlier it might not have opened the album..but been the bridge that leads to another track.
#253 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
James wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:the best thing about you and this forum is it was the only true forum for the fans that didn't kiss the bands or TBs butt for speical perks. Its why this is the only GNR forum I go to anymore.
One of the reasons I felt ok taking the hard stance I did is because I knew the Axl from our youth would have respected it. Maybe he did respect it in 2006-8.
He joined HTGTH, mygnr, CD.com and Evo in 2008 for chats.
Guess which one he didn't actually post on?
It pissed people off but it was a nice gesture. He didn't have to sign up at all. Could have ignored us like he did those other forums like newgnr, GNRsource, gnfnr, etc.
When the official GNR site posted the chat transcripts, they linked to the transcripts posted here instead of the others.
James, what happened to the gnfr forum?
I don't know the details. I only posted there sporadically and hadn't been on there since right after the Village Leaks. That Brasky thread there was their all time best thread.
It was forum drama that killed it. That much I do know.
#254 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
James refresh my mind on the interludes thing.
I just looked it up and it's not in CD Whispers. Fuck.
It was probably a Stinson and/or Fortus email in 2005 and obviously all those types of things weren't archived. The majority of CD Whispers is articles/interviews.
I've said this before but a fuck ton of CD related content is lost to history.
We're lucky we have as much as we do.
To answer the question...
Tommy mentioned how it wasn't going to be a long album and they were working on interludes at the time (2004-5). Fortus might have mentioned it too.
Later I'm gonna try to find it buried on HTGTH.
#255 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
It could have been that they were always meant to bleed into each other. Those orchestrations were really long and intricate
Everyone forgets the interludes... probably because it was only mentioned once.
Both these songs may have initially had an interlude sandwiched between them.
I wish we could've had the real Chinese Democracy before the leaks and long wait got out of control.
Even if the track list largely stays the same, it could've been different.
#256 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
James wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Agreed. & a big thanks to who ever it was.
Has TB hassled you about this at all? What else leaked here way back?
Nope. They've never talked to me. I think they got the message back in the day when there was that attempt for the forums to all unite to ban/censor MSL to prevent leaks and I said they could fuck off.
Plus we were known back then as the outlaw forum and I said many times I was not for sale...don't give a fuck about "perks" such as emails and backstage passes.
Im pretty sure chicken dinner leaked here. Some of the Village discs might have or maybe hit the discord first. Not sure.
Some of those 2007 leaks hit our old forum (ROV) first.
Didn't that Walker guy leak a couple songs here years ago and everyone jumped his ass over the YouTube stuff?
the best thing about you and this forum is it was the only true forum for the fans that didn't kiss the bands or TBs butt for speical perks. Its why this is the only GNR forum I go to anymore.
One of the reasons I felt ok taking the hard stance I did is because I knew the Axl from our youth would have respected it. Maybe he did respect it in 2006-8.
He joined HTGTH, mygnr, CD.com and Evo in 2008 for chats.
Guess which one he didn't actually post on?
It pissed people off but it was a nice gesture. He didn't have to sign up at all. Could have ignored us like he did those other forums like newgnr, GNRsource, gnfnr, etc.
When the official GNR site posted the chat transcripts, they linked to the transcripts posted here instead of the others.
#257 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
AgesOfTheIce wrote:wagszilla wrote:The orchestra sting on "The General" is the bridge, not the intro like I suspected. I'm not sure it works for the beginning of the bridge but the ending of the bridge is pretty satisfactory.
If "Monsters" is "Soul Monster", someone try to listen for Robin's SRV solo Axl mentioned.
Edit: It could be the solo 2:00-2:15 but I'm no SRV expert
Axl never said nor implied that Soul Monster was the song with the SRV solo. Forum myth.
Yeah he just said it was on one song
I think we need to re-think some of the things we all assumed. I mean The General strings being split into two songs that may or may not have been one song at some stage is not a curve anyone saw coming at all.
I kinda saw it coming...not to this extent though.
When we heard Hard School and it had a sample of Eye On You pasted in, I knew they had started cannibalizing songs at some point. If they did it once, they probably did it more.
#258 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
James wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Hopefully it's never public knowledge who leaked them. No sense burning that bridge.
Yeah... while I do understand the curiosity since there's always craziness surrounding leaks, in this case I think we're better off letting the sleeping dog lie and just being grateful we got it right as the fan base was having a collective conniption fit from hell over the vinyl fiasco.
The fact that it leaked here... although not the first song to leak here... hopefully not the last...is intriguing. That guy/girl could have literally posted it anywhere...mygnr, bad Apples, HTGTH, Hoffman, torrents, discords, social media platforms...yet they chose Evo.
Agreed. & a big thanks to who ever it was.
Has TB hassled you about this at all? What else leaked here way back?
Nope. They've never talked to me. I think they got the message back in the day when there was that attempt for the forums to all unite to ban/censor MSL to prevent leaks and I said they could fuck off.
Plus we were known back then as the outlaw forum and I said many times I was not for sale...don't give a fuck about "perks" such as emails and backstage passes.
Im pretty sure chicken dinner leaked here. Some of the Village discs might have or maybe hit the discord first. Not sure.
Some of those 2007 leaks hit our old forum (ROV) first.
Didn't that Walker guy leak a couple songs here years ago and everyone jumped his ass over the YouTube stuff?
#259 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
wagszilla wrote:The orchestra sting on "The General" is the bridge, not the intro like I suspected. I'm not sure it works for the beginning of the bridge but the ending of the bridge is pretty satisfactory.
If "Monsters" is "Soul Monster", someone try to listen for Robin's SRV solo Axl mentioned.
Edit: It could be the solo 2:00-2:15 but I'm no SRV expert
Axl never said nor implied that Soul Monster was the song with the SRV solo. Forum myth.
CD myths/fan fiction almost deserve their own section like CD Whispers.
SRV Soul Monster
Axl Soul Monster vocals in 2007
Me & My Elvis definitely Soul Monster
Shit ton of examples.
It's no one's fault. Stuff just gets repeated so often across these forums and they become "fact" over time. The fact we rely on 15-20 year old content with no updates makes it worse.
#260 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
really dig General but I’m shocked there’s not a big intro and outro considering those orchestrations
If these are the slash versions, then the huge intro could have been cut like it was in hard school.
It's a fan assumption...and felt like a safe one...that The General intro is that whole piece of music heard before concerts.
It more than likely never was.
That ending definitely needed something.
