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#261 The Sunset Strip » 4 Ways Rock Stars and Teen Pop Stars Are Exactly the Same » 617 weeks ago
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Teen schlock pop is everywhere. Look in one direction, and there's, well, One Direction, eager to let you know you're beautiful even if you don't want them to. Turn around and there's Justin Bieber, threatening you with a baseball cap that's still not quite big enough to contain his stupid ego.
Why is he famous? Where are the real rock stars? The bands I grew up listening to would never do any of this Disney Channel bullshit, right?
#262 Re: The Sunset Strip » The BATMAN Thread » 617 weeks ago
5 Reasons Ben Affleck Will Make a Great Batman
Warner Bros. recently announced their decision to cast Ben Affleck as Batman in the upcoming Man of Steel sequel, Batman vs. Superman, and the Internet had such a vitriolic meltdown that I initially thought Ben Affleck had murdered a bunch of pregnant teenagers while wearing a Batman costume. Comic book fans across the world have already convinced themselves that this is the worst tragedy in modern history, and they all seem to agree that Ben Affleck might as well be fashioning their collective childhoods into a makeshift condom for his million dollar Hollywood penis and using it to jackhammer Bob Kane's skeletal corpse into bone-powder sex dust.
However, we've been wrong about this kind of thing before. Ben Affleck playing Batman in a Superman movie is hardly the end of the world, and if history is any indication, it might not even be that bad.
#263 Re: The Sunset Strip » Motley Crue’s Nikki Sixx Encourages Fans to ‘Dig Deep’ and Purchase Fu » 617 weeks ago
I don't think so. I think we're almost saying the same thing but worded differently. I said it's not a bad thing or a good thing. That's what they choose to listen to BUT it does have an impact when they are not willing to seek out anything more than what they hear on radio. In my opinion people who listen to what they are fed and nothing more are not true fans of music. They are fans of songs, often times because it's what other's like and that's it. You'll be able to see the evidence of this 20 years from now when NOTHING that's being released now is being listened to then. Not even the so called soundtracks to their lives will be listened to because it's crap. Nobody is driving around listening to Fall out Boy or My Chemical Romance o Limp Bizkit anymore and those were soundtracks to people's lives. Nobody is gonna be pumping Lil'Wayne 15 years from now. Nobody pumps 50 Cent now! That's the difference. When the general public accepts crap and only crap(which is the case for the most part in 2013 and has been for a while) as a soundtrack to their lives then when they are 15 years older that soundtrack is going to sound terrible and nobody will be listening to it.
I disagree about today's music not having posterity ( not about being crap mind you). But at my company Christmas party last year, the DJ played "In Da Club" and everyone my age had that "Aaaaaahhh shit" moment. A few months back, my wife and I rocked out to "Faith" by Limp Bizkit. It took us back.
I'm sure there are people as you describe, that just like certain music because that's what they think is cool, and I agree that they aren't really fans. I just don't think that every casuals music listener is like that.
#264 Re: The Sunset Strip » Jared Leto Says MTV Has Turned Its Back on Rock, Taylor Hawkins Says ‘ » 617 weeks ago
Me_Wise_Magic wrote:Bloodflower wrote:MTV is nothing but a cesspool for shitty reality tv shows and bullshit programing. The closer an "artist" is to a shitty reality show stars like Jersey Shore jackoffs the more MTV will acknowledge them. It's a prime example of the deterioration of society. Fuck MTV. The sad thing is everyone knows it and nobody does anything about it.
That's what I like to hear. It's the sad but absolute truth.
Thirded
At this point, who the fuck would want to be a rock artist on MTV? I remember back in the early-to-mid 2000's when I was wrapping up with high school, and their "hard rock" category was made up with fag-rock outfits like My Chemical Romance or Fall Out Boy, and these kinds winning these awards and everybody "freaking out" over it like it's a really big deal.
MTV took a TON of shit then over labeling those outfits and pushing them down the masses throats. I'm kind of glad they've moved on from rock. The rock in MTV ended gradually over that 1992-1997 period where rap took over, glam rock that built MTV died, Guns N' Roses went on perminate hiatus, grunge was born, peaked and dead, and by 1997 Creed was "the band", and Axl didn't give a fuck, Kurt was dead, Layne wanted to be, Soundgarden & AIC was over, Pearl Jam didn't give a fuck, and ? So... by 2000 there was a hint of a new era with nu-metal, but Linkin Park and stuff like that was so commercial, that it died as quick as it was born.
Here we are...
I was fortunate enough to be in high school when NuMetal was the thing. It was a short but magical time full of hot girls that were into metal. I got to see Rage Against the Machine play Live on TRL, took a hot date to the Warped Tour, and went out with a chick that was a background dancer for a Limp Bizkit video. Rock n' Roll. \m/ \m/
#265 Re: The Sunset Strip » Motley Crue’s Nikki Sixx Encourages Fans to ‘Dig Deep’ and Purchase Fu » 617 weeks ago
I believe it comes down to this. Most people are not true music fans. They like music, they'll listen to what's fed to them but they are not true music fans in the sense that they crave music and want to hear all that is possible. They are not willing to seek out quality music. If you hear a song that you like or even love by an artist yet you are not inclined to go out and dig deeper into that artist's catalogue you are not a true fan of music. It's not a good or bad thing it's just how I view it personally. Myself I am a true fan of music so if an artist catches my ear I will dig deeper and I will buy full albums. I always do with the artists I like and in fact when I purchase a new album I often skip the singles on first listen because I've already heard them and I want to see what more the artist has to offer me.
The problem now is true music fans are becoming less and less and it has a lot to do with what Axlin just talked about. Consume, consume, consume, produce, produce, produce, work, work, work and on to the next thing. Sadly now more than ever people are fake and strive so hard to be what other's want them to be. I honestly believe a lot of people load their ipods with music they don't really enjoy but they have it because they think others enjoy it and that's "what matters" these days. Thus creating an entire generation of single consumers who are for the most part not really fans of music but simply fans of collections of songs that they may or may not like but that they think others will. It's shocking how many people get into my car and love the music I play yet they've never heard any of it. Remarks such as "This is way better than what I have on my ipod" or "Why isn't this stuff on the radio?" are common yet these same people aren't willing to do anything about it by supporting the artists I have in my car or by searching out music they'd actually enjoy without being told to enjoy it. They are content to listen to what's fed to them and be manipulated into thinking they really enjoy it. That's fine, that's their choice but I think it's a problem and does have an impact on the amount of quality music being released.
And then there's the big problem of artists knowing that this is the case and not taking the art of making full albums with 12 or so great songs on it seriously. They know as well as we do people consume singles and if they can focus on making one great single than the rest is just filler.
Some may think I'm way off in my opinion but I believe there's a lot of merit to what I'm saying.
I think you're being a little over judgemental of the casual music fan. The casual music fan listens to what they listen to because it's the soundtrack to their lives. It's what's on the radio, playing at the parties they go to, their summer anthems. There's nothing wrong with that IMO.
Now stuff that's on the radio today being crap is a different story. It's crap because media today panders to the least common denominator, so that's all we get. For the casual listener, it doesn't matter that its crap, it still does its job. It still takes them back to that time and place where they enjoyed it. And it doesn't really matter to us passionate fans either, because we're wiling to seek out the good stuff. There's still a lot of it out there.
What sucks for us is, if we can't appreciate the crap, and just enjoy it for what it is, a soundtrack to our lives, than we lose a little bit of the experience.
#266 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 617 weeks ago
Will Smith would of been interesting if that came around in the late 90s. Now I'm not sure if it would work period. I'm open to an African American or another race for Superman since it does happen in a particular universe in the comics. I read some of the story and as long as it has the core Supes' values I'm totally cool with it. It worked so well with the new Ultimate Spiderman in the comics with Peter Parker still being in that or another universe. Like Batman & Spiderman, Superman is a symbol, an icon, and an inspiration of how anyone with the power to do good and set what is right can be a hero. He's a mythical character that most of us want to be and wish to have that kind of morality and code. There is alot of psychology with these characters and how the writers and readers look at themselves.
You know, I've always hated the idea of Will Smith as Superman. Any other hero, I'd probably be able to live with it. Batman, Flash, any of them, wouldn't care. Superman is just so iconic, I don't want the character fucked with in any way at all. But I've never thought of it in the context of a multiverse before, and now I fucking love the idea.
I also agree that Smith as Superman would be interesting, because of the race factor. How would being raised in a world that discriminated against him because of his skin color affect him? Would he attempt to drive change more than leading by example? How would the world react to him?
And maybe all of this isn't as crazy as we think. Marvel beat DC to the shared movie universe, maybe DC one ups them by beating them to the shared movie multiverse.
#267 Re: The Sunset Strip » 40 Years Ago: The Doors Break Up » 617 weeks ago
Dam, you make it sound so awesome, now I'm disappointed. Lol.
#268 Re: The Sunset Strip » Superman Thread. » 617 weeks ago
While it's kind of funny to see; it's too overly complicated to put together on film. I still stand by Routh as the weakest portrayal of Superman (he should be Overman in my opinion. Routh may of saved a few people; but he left Earth for five years to mope and find himself). It's too crazy and over the place; plus if we are dealing with multiple Supermans and Batmans we would have to include the other universes. Bizarro, Cyborg Superman, Red Son (Soviet) Superman, and those many Batmans. my god! This was a fun to skim through. I thought Cavill made a great Superman. Sure the script wasn't perfect; but with this feel it can improve on that (hopefully!) Interesting thoughts; but yeah I thought the Adam West part was pretty badass.
Awesome ideas bro. I think something like this might work as a fun hour long made for TV special to promote a Superman / Batman team up flick..... maybe. Lol. But boy would I love to see it happen.
And hell, through Nick Cage and Will Smith in there as Superman while we're at since, since they were each considered for the role at one time or another.
#269 Re: The Sunset Strip » Jared Leto Says MTV Has Turned Its Back on Rock, Taylor Hawkins Says ‘ » 617 weeks ago
^^hell yeah dude, fuck MTV.
MTV seriously doesn't matter anymore, not since they stopped playing music videos, so who gives a fuck.
#270 Re: The Garden » What are you eating? » 617 weeks ago
My moms paella.