Mitch has to go.  Enough of this.  I said nothing to him, nothing about him, and he responds with the post above out of thin air.

He's literally the equivalent of the looters on this site with no attempt at all to participate in civil discussion.  EVERY other person in this thread regardless of when things get heated has participated in civil discussions along the way. 

Every statement made above is a perverted twist of what was actually said. I actually posted that I felt bad for mitch's situation that the virus created.  I'll gladly go find the post if he wants to deny this.  This is what he does.  He takes my stance that we fucked up handling the virus situation personally as though I am attacking him.  No, that's not what happened.  I said we shouldn't have closed things, which would have protected mitch and his small business.  EVERYTHING I've posted has been that small businesses are getting killed by what we've done.  Over and over again.  Yet mitch makes shit up claiming I said the above.  I said none of that until my post right before this where I finally agreed to not care about mitch (at his request seemingly).  Fact is he needs help, so I do still care about him.  But he needs to be gone because he cannot handle this in anything even close to good faith.  He ironically is Trump in this thread just making stuff up to attack people.

This is exactly what those orchestrating all of this want.  Well done.

I have a little (very little) to say about this topic, so hopefully this will be my one and only comment on it. 

It's sad that we live in a society where you have to pick a side and support that side no matter what happens.  I'm not allowed to be equally upset about the actions of (a small number of) police and the actions of a relatively small number of people that use incidents like this as an opportunity to destroy a community.  Normally I'd say their own community, but I'm not convinced that the rioting is actually coming from people in that community in a lot of cases. 

I've read all kinds of accounts from people making excuses for the officer.  There is no excuse.  Even if Mr Floyd had killed an officer, they had no right to kill him without a trial as nobody's life was in immediate danger.  I haven't and won't watch the video as I have zero interest in seeing someone lose their life.  I trust that (most of) the accounts I have read are accurate.  There's nothing Mr Floyd could have done to justify what happened to him.  Nothing.  Not only should that officer be prosecuted to the law's fullest extent, so should those that were standing there and did nothing to stop it.  I stand (figuratively) with the peaceful protesters.  The vast majority that are peaceful aren't the problem...

...it's the comparatively smaller group that starts trouble, then the mob mentality that takes over sucking in (in many cases) people that otherwise wouldn't participate in something like that.  I don't care how upset you are, you can't go burning buildings down.  The protests during the day all seem to be fine; night time hits and all of a sudden people go crazy.  I'm convinced it's not the same people (in most cases) that were there during the day.

There are powerful people trying to keep us divided (the same people that flamed this division in the first place).  It's not Obama and it's not Trump.  There are all kinds of theories as to who it is, but I don't pretend to have the answers.  It wouldn't surprise me to find out this is a Star Wars prequel set up where someone (or the same groups) is/are manipulating both sides.

Here's what I do know:  WE aren't each other's enemies.  We see things differently because we all come from different places and experienced different things.  That's okay.  That's actually good.  Diversity of any kind (including diversity of thought) is a great thing when used to bring people together for a common good. 

Most people are good people.  That's us here (I'd say we're all good at our core), that's cops, that's whites, blacks, asians, hispanics, etc.  I live in a very diverse neighborhood and (from what I have seen at least) everybody gets along.  People aren't afraid of me because I am white and nerdy.  I'm not afraid of other people because they look sort of like Ice-T.  We wave to each other when we're out walking, help each other out, have community gatherings like cookouts.  That doesn't mean we agree on everything.  We don't.  But it's okay.  I think 99% of diverse neighborhoods are like this.  I think most people in non-diverse neighborhoods don't live in those neighborhoods to get away from other ethnicities.  Why is it that at the micro-level we can all get along, but at the macro level we're so divided?  It's an interesting question that I'm not sure I've ever heard asked.

I'm sure somebody is going to pick this apart as not taking a stand or whatever.  That's fine.  Believe what you want...I'm not engaging in that.

Mitch: I don't understand what you're saying.

Buzz: takes the time to write out exactly what he's saying in an easy to understand manner.

Mitch: why are you still going on and on about this?

Buzz:

Not that anyone is interested in facts that back what I've been saying the whole time, but here's some anyway:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothec … 5d967e74cd

Nursing homes and assisted living facilities: The #1 COVID problem

2.1 million Americans, representing 0.62% of the U.S. population, reside in nursing homes and assisted living facilities. (Nursing homes are residences for seniors needing help with activities of daily living, such as taking a shower or getting dressed, who also require 24/7 medical supervision; assisted living facilities are designed for seniors who need help with activities of daily living, but don’t require full-time on-site medical supervision.)

According to an analysis that Gregg Girvan and I conducted for the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, as of May 22, in the 43 states that currently report such figures, an astounding 42% of all COVID-19 deaths have taken place in nursing homes and assisted living facilities.