Not the way I saw it. The sales were poor and it ended in a disaster. And if there was a buzz, Axl stopped the buzz with that MTV disaster. I love the 2002 line up and the whole deal, but it didn't go off well.

The 2006 version was welcomed in a much better way.

It's easy to be smart after it went down and give out all the ideas and opinions of how it should have been done. Anyone can do so.

And problem being with the Joe Public not accepting it, it seems like Heikki Public of Finland says "this is Guns N Roses" while Joe Public of USA says it's not. That goes for many countries. The theory doesn't really hold up.

But, he got a sense of reality we all got. Axl haven't been in a time capsule since 1991.

Get real, Axl won't promote any of his albums. It may cost him a few millions of album sales but he doesn't care.

Not one band member have said shit, Axl have kept quiet. You could only assume that's the way they want this to go down, especially with one band member in minus which makes the whole deal problematic touring and promoting wise. If they had done the basic press it would have notched up more sales. They act like there's no band behind the album at all.

Which makes me ask the question "why?". What's behind this approach?

I wouldn't push as far as some of you armchair experts do.

The album is up to par with any of the Illusions albums. Lies album and Spaghetti album is far off this quality too. The only album it comes short against is AFD and that was to be expected.

I said so 5 years ago that when this album would come out, you would have a mass percentage of fans being disappointed by the music. The expectations were so hilariously huge that it would be impossible to come thru even if you had Slash and Duff in the band to make songs. In the end, it's simply music, and in this case music Axl wanna make because that's the direction he wanna take.

Now, I agree with you on one thing. The album lacks the last punch. The WTTJ or the SCOM. It got Brownstones, It's so easy's and a whole bunch of Rocket Queens too, but where is the number one hit single? Is it "Sorry"?. Very close to something but it's a ballad. It should have been a rocker. The rocker isn't there. That's what it lacks. This I Love is a masterpiece. The Blues should be forgotten. It's a lackluster song. Rhiad And the Bedouins too. It's album filler. But then again, GNR always had these lackluster shitty songs on all their albums. Don't idolize the past and forget the crappy old GNR tunes we never listen to. When the fuck did I listen to Anything Goes the last time? 2001? Chinese Democracy got an overall quality better than anything they released except AFD. And you can't compete with AFD. It will stand in history as the best rock album of all times. It will never be beaten.

And, we totally screwed it up by listening to all those leaks. Imagine having all these songs coming to you NOW and not between 2001 and 2006. Would your approach be different? Damn fucking right it would be.

But after listening thru, you sit there and you think; "where's the last song"? because you expect a smashing hit thing coming to you. Instead they release Chinese Democracy as the first single.

A bit to early for this don't u think?

I would say, even what I've seen of Beta online, that you have no right to talk shit about her like that. We don't know what's been going on between her and Axl since 1993-something, but clearly Axl found someone he liked and could trust and the feeling is mutual. For whatever reasons, give her some benefit of doubt and stop talking shit about people you don't know anything about. It's disrespectful..

Now, talk shit about Jarmo from a GNR-point of view all you want, because he's been been online sucking up to Axl for God knows how long and he annoys the fuck out of me too.