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#281 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 674 weeks ago

DCK
Cramer wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Are we going to ban matches and lighters or knives?

I would prefer we banned bad analogies first.

LOL!!!!!

Talking of cultural differences, this is THE ONE that seperates Americans from the rest of the western world. I'm right there with monkey on this.

But as someone said, to change this policy in the US takes at least a 100 years. How on Earth will you be able to remove all those guns?

But the fact stands that your constitution was written in a different time, and it was written based on a different world. It doesn't fit any longer. It was a mistake, but it's too late to change it.

#282 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 675 weeks ago

DCK
buzzsaw wrote:
Cramer wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Because it's going to happen anyway.

It just happened and the argument is that if people had been armed then a crisis could have been averted or made less severe. However the bad guy obtained the weapons legally, so can't we also conclude that we'd have a much lower chance of something like this happening with stricter gun laws?

Lax American guns laws surely didn't save lives in this case, or when Giffords was shot in Arizona (very pro gun state) either. The default answer always seems to be "If everybody had guns then..."  Why not simply explore the other side and say "If everybody did NOT have guns then...."

LOL - because that is NEVER going to happen no matter what laws you pass.  I live in this thing called reality.  It's not always good, but it is what it is.  The US will break apart before guns are banned.  Period.

But you can control and avoid a lot. You can't go completely blank, but you can hinder and control. Welcome to the rest of us.

In the United Kingdom in 2009 there were 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United States was 3.0, about 40 times higher, and for Germany 0.2

#283 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 675 weeks ago

DCK

I didn't go thru this thread, but;

If it's anything like finishing and album or releasing a book.

You're so fucking bored of it. Bored of the <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">pictures</a>, bored of the text, bored of your own writing. You could care fucking less. Getting it out is just an anti climax because you're so fed up with it all you just don't wanna see it. I spoke to an author friend in England a few weekend ago and he never even read thru his own stuff.

But then for some reason, you wanna go thru it all again.

Repeat cycle.

I think that's what Ron is feeling.

#284 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 675 weeks ago

DCK

By the way, who the fuck takes six year olds and babies to see <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">Batman</a>???

I'm not saying you can fix it, you can't. You need a total cultural revamp for it to happen. The stage is set. There will be shootings and they won't stop.

And then Canada won't have any. smile

It's silly. The south will probably go to war for them, and then people shoot politicians in the head and babies in a movie theatre and they still think it's a good idea.

#285 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 675 weeks ago

DCK

It's so impossible to discuss gun laws with so many Americans, and buzz keeps doing those classic arguments I've heard so many times before, while a guy like monkey comes with the rest of the western worls opinion.

That argument that crazy people gets hold of shit no matter what.

Guess what, they don't. They only do it in America because the country is massive platform of weaponry.

People go nuts, but fact stands, if they wanna go nuts, it's a lot harder to get to a gun in Australia than in the US. I wouldn't even know where to turn to get a gun.

And that's again why you get these repeated performances of crazy people in the US. They get to guns. People in Australia or Canada don't. There's just as many wacos in Australia, but yet they don't find they ways to guns so easily and then you avoid perhaps 7 out of 10 nut jobs with guns. Some will always get to them, but it's all about preventing it.

After 22/7 in Norway, we instantly saw that our extremely heavy gun control laws were not heavy enough, and they immediately put in measures to prevent people getting to fire arms even more than before. And what do they do in America when it happens again and again? Keeps silent, says it's a tragedy and move on. Until next time when the same thing happens. I wonder how many decades of this will have to go on before they change their mind. Never?

#287 Re: Guns N' Roses » Canter Banter @ MyGNR... » 675 weeks ago

DCK

Who's this guy and where is he coming from? Slash entourage?

#288 Re: The Garden » September 11 2001 » 675 weeks ago

DCK
nugdafied wrote:

Don't care about any videos or hypotheticals posed from either side in this argument.

All I know is that there were several laws of physics "broken" that day and I don't believe for a second that the official story is true.

Three steel structures don't pancake collapse from fire and passenger jets don't fly 10 feet above the ground at 500 mph before crashing into the abandoned wing of the Pentagon.

The official story is ridiculous and anyone who believes it happened that way is naive.

Says a guy with a moving weed GIF avatar.

Hardly a good start.

#289 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 675 weeks ago

DCK
buzzsaw wrote:
DCK wrote:

Gun contol:

How many shootings like this have the USA had the past four decades.
How many shootings like this have Canada had the past four decades.

Ops.

Case closed.

if only it was that simple.  It's not, and you know it's not.  Society in the US is quite different than society in Canada.  Guns aren't the reason for that.  You can't look at situations that are different in so many ways and blame one thing for one difference.  It doesn't work that way.

Better yet. Why don't you explain the differences to me? Apart from the obvious fact that your constitution and laws regarding gun control are very different, what's so different that makes shootings like this a regular occurance in the US but yet never seem to happen in Canada? It's quite normal for neighbouring countries to compare themselves to each other to better their countries and so on. We do it all the time to Sweden and Finland.

Could it perhaps be that Canada has very hard gun control compared to the US? I think Bono said it pretty nicely above.

Some people can always do harm. Some people can always find ways. The whole idea is to avoid people like this fuck getting to guns and weapons which he has done to a very successfull degree in this case.

Would he be getting these guns in Canada? No way. And that limits his options considerably.

#290 Re: The Garden » Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater » 675 weeks ago

DCK

Gun contol:

How many shootings like this have the USA had the past four decades.
How many shootings like this have Canada had the past four decades.

Ops.

Case closed.

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