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#21 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 865 weeks ago
I kinda figured 400K- 650K I think it'll drop off significantly after the first week or two. I don't think it's gonna sustain any real success on the charts.
They'll need either strong word of mouth or a couple of big crossover singles to give it legs. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen. I think that This I Love could be the magic crossover ticket but we'll see if they even release it as a single
#22 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 865 weeks ago
shotgunblues1978 wrote:Dude, I've already acknowledged that posting this article is in ways childish and vindictive. What more do you want? I just don't care that much.
It's reactionary. A response to the agenda filled articles that lean the other way. It shouldn't come as any surprise. I understand your point. I just don't get why you take it so personally
Ummm do you actually think I give two shits about this stuff once I logout? I mean seriously have you never read anything and said "that's fucking pathetic and disgusting" in response or are you just too damn cavalier and don't react to things at all. Yeah I'm personally mortified by this. I'll have to call in sick tomorrow. I mean how can I work when I feel like this?
I sent the link to my brother. He read it, said it's pathetic and the guy is on crack. He's not even a fan. I wonder why he's taking it so personal? Or is he just responding to a laughable article like I was?
I hope it hasn't affected you to that level 
I don't think anyone will boycott the album due to the fact that this review was posted on their site
Bottom line is that 3 of the 5 guys from the original lineup, those being Axl, Slash and Adler aren't exactly the model of maturity. Duff and Izzy are another story. So I'm not at all surprised that this article got posted. It just doesn't matter to me. Like I said, I'm an Axl fan because of the authenticity of his lyrics and his style of music. The rest of the stuff isn't really an issue to me, because he has led a life that I can't comprehend, from the childhood abuse, to going from a complete nobody to an international superstar in the span of a year. I think Izzy summed it up best, saying "Axl is a very complicated but very talented guy." The drama and antics are irrelevant to me because the only relationship I have with the guy is via his music, which I can connect to better than almost any other musician I can think of
#23 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 865 weeks ago
tejastech08 wrote:bigbri wrote:Ha, ha, Escape by Journey is No. 3 in the U.S.? WTF? That album came out in 1981.
They were probably running a $4.99 sale on it.
Really? Don't want to take this off-topic, but still, that seems weird.
Escape, BTW, is Journey's Appetite.
Don't know if it was this album or Greatest Hits but they didn indeed have a Journey album on sale for 4.99 a few days ago
#24 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 865 weeks ago
shotgunblues1978 wrote:I don't care if Axl "insults" me, I don't know him and he doesn't know me. But bottom line, getting irate over the fact that his camp posted a positive article about his album from a legit news source on the website is pretty hysterical. Childish and petty as this may be, you are taking it way too seriously, way too personally
It's not a "positive" review. It's clear what the agenda is from the opening three paragraphs. If you can't comprehend that than that's your problem.
Dude, I've already acknowledged that posting this article is in ways childish and vindictive. What more do you want? I just don't care that much.
It's reactionary. A response to the agenda filled articles that lean the other way. It shouldn't come as any surprise. I understand your point. I just don't get why you take it so personally
#25 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 865 weeks ago
shotgunblues1978 wrote:Oh my God, yeah, I can't believe they posted a positive review about the album from a major newspaper
The gaul! The insanity!
I mean yeah it may be an asshole move in some ways but if they're going to post any reviews from major, reputable sources at all that might as well be one of them. Especially because it's so positive about the new band, and because so much shit has been rained on guys who played on this album who did nothing to deserve it
It's not about being positive it's about being so god damn disrespectful of the old band. It's about trying to discredit the past while boosting their own ego. the review for the first three paragraphs basically goes off on how bad Slash was. It has more to do with trying to tarnish the past than embrace the present. If you can't see what's wrong with this being posted on the official site than that in itself is pathetic. Axl should have(but doesn't) the confidence to let the album stand on it's own. Even the fans preach this but instead they put up a review that rather than saying why the new album is good it's saying here's why Slash was too shitty to make such a quality album. It reaks of a desperate attempt at giving the album Gn'R cred by trying to discredit the original Gn'R guitarist. It's weak. It's laughable and it's pathetic.
Sorry, just don't care
Maybe Axl is bitter and vindictive, but I honestly don't care. It's not like I'm hoping to be best friends with the guy. I like him because his music speaks to me in a way that few other musicians do
You could make a laundry list of actions and comments from both Axl and Slash that make them look petty, bitter, and childish. Both of them, at the end of the day, are very childlike, albeit in completely different ways. It's about the music to me. I don't really give a shit about the rest of the drama
I don't care if Axl "insults" me, I don't know him and he doesn't know me. But bottom line, getting irate over the fact that his camp posted a positive article about his album from a legit news source on the website is pretty hysterical. Childish and petty as this may be, you are taking it way too seriously, way too personally
#26 Re: Guns N' Roses » This I Love » 865 weeks ago
I've said this before but to me the only other rock singer I can even imagine composing something like this is Freddie
They lyrics are very simple and almost childlike but they are genuine and real
The music and vocal melodies have a real beauty to them
#27 Re: Guns N' Roses » I have Post Traumatic Release Disorder!!! » 865 weeks ago
You don't find it creepy that in 2000, the man was hoping Dylan would listen to the album "to hear the truth". A kid that was 2 when the Steph thing soured, and wasn't even his child?
I find it creepy, and i'm a guy.
I think the same energy that fuels Axl to make a BRILLIANT song like This I Love, is actually because he's THAT crazy. His nuttiness fuels his artisticness.
Axl is or at least at one point was a very troubled and unhappy person. The reason his lyrics and voice portray such genuine emotion is because he really believes the stuff he writes and sings
You could write a book on the psychology of the guys in GnR. As far as Axl, he shows all the telltale signs of someone who was emotionally and physically abused as a kid. I don't pretend to know the guy but from most accounts it's obvious he has major control and trust issues, doesn't let things go, and is insecure when it comes to being judged or criticized. Other comments portray him as someone who is a loving and kindhearted person by nature and is very loyal. This dichotomy is IMO what makes him such a great entertainer and musician. He represents the very best and very worst of people and shows it in his music
#28 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Evo members' Chinese Democracy reviews thread » 865 weeks ago
Oh my God, yeah, I can't believe they posted a positive review about the album from a major newspaper
The gaul! The insanity!
I mean yeah it may be an asshole move in some ways but if they're going to post any reviews from major, reputable sources at all that might as well be one of them. Especially because it's so positive about the new band, and because so much shit has been rained on guys who played on this album who did nothing to deserve it
#29 Re: Guns N' Roses » so, does CD stand up as a Guns N' Roses album? » 865 weeks ago
Yes. I rate it on the level of UYI 2
It doesn't climb to the heights of Locomotive or Estranged for ballads, or YCBM for rockers, but it doesn't have anything as bad as Get In The Ring, So Fine, or My World
#30 Re: Guns N' Roses » Predictions: 1st week U.S. sales will be... » 865 weeks ago
My prediction for years has been 500-700K first week
I guess I should've adjusted that slightly for the Best Buy thing but I didn't, but I guess I should change it to 400-500K
I know some people will see this an excuse but it's really just the facts
Best Buy has 1400 stores in the US. Wal-Mart has over 4000 including the Super Centers, not to mention Sam's Club. And Wal-Mart spent a lot more $ advertising Black Ice than Best Buy did CD. Wal-Mart held off until the last week or so but that last week I saw their commercial probably a dozen time during college and NFL football games. I still haven't seen a commercial for CD on TV even once. I expected them to hit us with the full on marketing blitz but it never came
Metallica sold 490,000 in 4 days, but how many stores were they available in? Every single Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, and Target plus every record store int he country. Bottom line is that it was much more widely available
BUT, and this is what I keep saying, GnR didn't sign on with Best Buy to maximize the # of albums sold. They went with Best Buy to maximize profits without having to edit their album. If the album sells below expectations, Best Buy gets hurt a lot worse than UMG or GnR
